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Post by savedbygrace on Feb 16, 2020 15:10:40 GMT -7
Praying that today is a better day for you!
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Post by javajake on Feb 21, 2020 9:05:57 GMT -7
Getting frustrated. Actually tried to get some porn going but didn't work out. Tried looking at just sexy stuff but that not working out either. Been here a million times. I want to justify looking at something. I'm a little directionless in my life right now. Bored. Wife has a physical issue at the moment so our us time has been a long while. I feel angry inside and having a hard time fellowshipping with the Lord. I need strength to do the right thing. Please pray for me to stand strong in the Lord even though I feel disconnected with Him right now.
Knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the law, but by the faith of Jesus Christ, even we have believed in Jesus Christ, that we might be justified by the faith of Christ, and not by the works of the law: for by the works of the law shall no flesh be justified. Galatians 2:16 (KJV)
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Post by KevinesKay on Feb 21, 2020 17:57:14 GMT -7
Getting frustrated. Actually tried to get some porn going but didn't work out. Tried looking at just sexy stuff but that not working out either. Been here a million times. I want to justify looking at something.
I'm glad it's not working out. That's better than feeling cruddy the next morning after acting out. I've been there too. After setting so many blocks on my phone, it frustrates me so bad that I can't act out. I've craved and did a poor job of keeping custody of my eyes and mind. And then I wake up the next day, sober from P & MB and completely relieved. That's happened countless times to me this past year. And I cannot contribute that to anything else but the grace of God.
javajake, I have a question if you don't mind me asking.
How accessible is P in your home?
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Post by savedbygrace on Feb 22, 2020 6:30:31 GMT -7
Praying for you!
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Post by javajake on Feb 22, 2020 9:29:09 GMT -7
Getting frustrated. Actually tried to get some porn going but didn't work out. Tried looking at just sexy stuff but that not working out either. Been here a million times. I want to justify looking at something.
I'm glad it's not working out. That's better than feeling cruddy the next morning after acting out. I've been there too. After setting so many blocks on my phone, it frustrates me so bad that I can't act out. I've craved and did a poor job of keeping custody of my eyes and mind. And then I wake up the next day, sober from P & MB and completely relieved. That's happened countless times to me this past year. And I cannot contribute that to anything else but the grace of God.
javajake, I have a question if you don't mind me asking.
How accessible is P in your home?
Yes I’m glad it didn’t work out either. The fact I didn’t go further is the grace of God cause I could have. Which leads to your question “How accessible is P in your home?” Very. I have been a computer geek for around 27 years. Lots of pc’s and gadgets. Most with internet access.
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Post by javajake on Feb 22, 2020 9:29:50 GMT -7
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Post by KevinesKay on Feb 22, 2020 23:23:47 GMT -7
JavaJake,
I can see how challenging it can be to avoid P when it's constantly within arms reach.
I know a number of addicts that are not triggered by having easy access to their DOC including porn addicts. They are able to depend solely on personal resolve or the grace of God.
I am not one of those people. If porn is within arms reach, I might be fine for awhile, but I'll eventually take a hit. I know that about myself. So I put a lot of effort in making my home a safe place. If there is any place that I need to feel safe, it's in my own home. It's my castle; my safe haven. So I made it a boundary violation for me to have easy access to porn.
JavaJake, I'll support whatever decision you make on this. If you feel that you need better boundaries in this area, we'll work out a solution to make that happen. Where there's a will, there's a way.
But if you feel that it's not necessary, I'll support that too. Whatever you feel led to do. I just want to see you get better.
Thanks for sharing.
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Post by javajake on Feb 23, 2020 9:32:36 GMT -7
JavaJake, I can see how challenging it can be to avoid P when it's constantly within arms reach. I know a number of addicts that are not triggered by having easy access to their DOC including porn addicts. They are able to depend solely on personal resolve or the grace of God. I am not one of those people. If porn is within arms reach, I might be fine for awhile, but I'll eventually take a hit. I know that about myself. So I put a lot of effort in making my home a safe place. If there is any place that I need to feel safe, it's in my own home. It's my castle; my safe haven. So I made it a boundary violation for me to have easy access to porn. JavaJake, I'll support whatever decision you make on this. If you feel that you need better boundaries in this area, we'll work out a solution to make that happen. Where there's a will, there's a way. But if you feel that it's not necessary, I'll support that too. Whatever you feel led to do. I just want to see you get better. Thanks for sharing. Yes please share your method of protection. I will then see if it is doable for my situation. Thanks Kevin!
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Post by savedbygrace on Feb 23, 2020 11:07:45 GMT -7
I find that filters miss enough that I can easily stir up my lust if that is what I really want to do, BUT I still find it super helpful that they block the really bad stuff. It reduces that "pull" which can trip me up in weak moments.
The one I use is cleaninter.net. Tell them to be sure to force safe search on all search engines.
Allowing "soft" porn does not work for me. I do not watch halftime shows of football games.
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Post by KevinesKay on Feb 23, 2020 20:24:07 GMT -7
Okay JavaJake, I’m going to be breaking this up into 3 different posts; one for my computer, one for my TV, and one for my phone. Let me start by sharing that this is very in depth. I’m a very sneaky, crafty person. My boundaries cannot be set and enforced by anyone else. Not my wife, nor my accountability partner, nor my pastor, nor anyone else. There is no one more qualified to set my boundaries than myself. It is my job to protect myself from myself. The baseline for me is having absolutely no TV, internet, or wifi access in the home. If nothing else works, I can always go to this baseline and get good results. Before I was married to Iris, I had no internet or wifi access at home. I did have a TV, but no cable. And it worked well for me. That was 15 years ago. Add a marriage, and 4 kids later, completely going off the grid doesn’t seem so agreeable to my family. Plus, there might be some things I need to do that will make internet access more useful. These things include going on BG, doing my banking, paying bills, doing my taxes, etc. But I wasn’t just going to give up making my home safe from myself in case I had a moment of unclarity. Let’s start with my computer. I don’t have any “extra” computers or devices laying around. But there are still a lot. They are all password protected. I cannot access any of them without a password being entered. And I don’t know any of the passwords. That includes my computer. If I’m going to use it, I need a family member put in a password for me. By the way, I’m the only one in the family that needs discipline in this area. Everyone else can exercise discipline using the internet except for me. For that I’m grateful that I’m the only porn addict in the house. In addition, I do not have administrative access. So if I need to download anything, or install any new apps, a family member needs to put in the code. There is only 1 web browser on my computer, FireFox. All other browsers have been uninstalled. That’s because Firefox has an add-on package called Foxfilter that allows me to restrict access to only those sites that are on a whitelist. And if I need a particular site added, my gatekeeper needs to put in the code. So I can do everything I need on my computer. I can go on BG. I can pay a credit card bill. I can go on my online banking. I can balance my checkbook. Facebook? Nope. Youtube? No way! Google search? Not a chance. Www.cutehamsters.com? If it’s not on my whitelist. It’s a no-go. Normal internet porn blockers and filters are not good enough for me. I can get through K-9 and NetNanny like a hot knife through butter. Now, Covenant Eyes is very good and recommended. However, my main computer is a LINUX (love it!) and Covenant Eyes does not support LINUX. But I cannot do porn on my computer. I would have to trick a family member into giving me access or I would have to find it somewhere else. Furthermore, I have a timer on my computer that restricts me from accessing it from 12:00 AM to 12:00 PM. So I cannot stay overnight on my computer or access it during the wee early hours of the morning while everyone is asleep. Aaaannnd, my timer is set for a maximum of 2 hours per day. It shuts down after my time is up. This can be bypassed, but not without a code. I’ll discuss my TV on a later post.
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Post by javajake on Feb 24, 2020 9:21:32 GMT -7
Pretty tight. So is your wife your password keeper? My wife would be the only one who could do this and I know my wife. She would not want to be responsible for this. Plus I don't discuss my issues with her unless she asks. Long road and history of over confession and her catching me. My son and daughter don't know of my problem (hopefully).
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Post by KevinesKay on Feb 24, 2020 10:13:42 GMT -7
javajake, My whole family is aware of my addiction. And they all know the dangers. They've gotten more supportive of my boundaries over time. For my computer, my wife and oldest daughter know the code. My wife wasn't so keen on playing gatekeeper, but she's gotten more accustomed to it over the years. I had to lay it like this. First I set up the blocks on my computer. Then I brought her over to select a password. She didn't like that. But my response was, "Look, how do you feel about the fact that me, a porn addict, has such easy access to it?" She primarily makes Abby put in the code when I need it. Over time, I feel that my wife has become more appreciative that I work so hard on my boundaries and recovery. If I didn't have a gatekeeper, I would probably get rid of my computer. Or I would at least get one with Covenant Eyes installed. Should I continue with what I do for my TV and phone? It sounds like the desire is there within you to make your home safe. I know that it would require a lot of work and trial and error. Do you have any interest to proceed with trying? Any ideas that might work for you?
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Post by KevinesKay on Feb 24, 2020 15:26:58 GMT -7
My son and daughter don't know of my problem (hopefully). How old are they?
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Post by javajake on Feb 25, 2020 15:48:58 GMT -7
Every relationship and family are different. They are adults now.
I don't have cable but do have a media box and roku tv. The main tv isn't a smart one.
I have ipad and iphone also.
Yeah might be a bit trick with me being responsible for it.
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Post by KevinesKay on Feb 25, 2020 16:43:56 GMT -7
Every relationship and family are different. They are adults now. I don't have cable but do have a media box and roku tv. The main tv isn't a smart one. I have ipad and iphone also. Yeah might be a bit trick with me being responsible for it. I still believe that where there's a will, there's a way. If you want to take extreme measures to make your home safe, you're smart enough to make it happen. If nothing changes, nothing changes. Now, on to my TV. There's only one in the house. I don't have access to it...period. We have cable and access to YouTube. It's violation of my middle circle to access and watch TV alone. A family member needs to put in a code and we usually watch what she picks. Now, I'm not familiar with any TV'S that have a built option to have it password protected. So I purchased a BOB TV timer for about $100. That does the trick. I haven't acted at home on my computer or TV since 2016. My phone is a different story. I'll get to that in a different post.
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