Can we pray together for Josh Duggar and family?

I am so sorry you went through molestation and sexual abuse. I was abused by dad and my grandpa. Dad from before I could walk until my first period...then he moved on to my sisters. Grandpa was an isolated incident. It happened and I made sure when I was there that I stayed with mom or Grandma. He never got another opportunity.

My advice to you about HS3's posts...to step away and calm down...can still be used. I am glad that you are able to forgive and not hold grudges. Women that survive what we went through have a hard time with that usually. The anger, rage, and helplessness tends to morph us into unforgiving people...at least for a time. It affects everything we touch until we learn to forgive and love in spite of our situations.

You know funny story about forgiveness I was desperate to forgive and did not know how.  I thought it was difficult I know now it is a choice.  The battle was in my mind the whole time I felt tormented and the idea that the father in heaven would not forgive me if I did not forgive my brother caused me to fear for my soul.  I needed to forgive those who hurt me but how I asked myself many times.  These are people who were supposed to be family people who I should have been able to look up to and the list goes on and on. I could come up with every excuse in the book.  I knew I was being tormented in my mind and that there was something having a hold of my life.  One thing that bothered me most is that I was always sick and often thought of myself as cursed.  My mind became a toy thing for satan.  I decided to look deeper in to soul ties and what it means to be tormented not possessed.  Anyways, I learned of soul ties and the effect they have on bondage and strongholds.  I knew that the only way was to let go and just do it forgive everyone.  I knew that in my own power I would fail so I decided to just work at it slowly with God a day at a time.  Eventually I got practice and I called everyone by name saying their trespass to me and crying I forgive you in a prayer that took days to complete because of so many and how difficult it was for me since I had to bring back not just the memories but the feelings.  It was a process but I did it and it was like if a dark cloud that was in my mind was lifted and I felt clear headed and free of the torment of nightmares and so on.  But of course being human I fall back in to remembering and the feelings come back and so does the unforgiveness does not mean I did not forgive means I have to do it again.  As many times as it takes until it sticks.  I know ladies and Gents that we are not perfect and we are all hurting here.  It is not my intention to lash out and to seem unforgiving but I am human and will fail once in a while.  I still stand with my decision.  I forgive but need to stay away from those who cause me pain.  I don't see anything wrong with that and neither do the people who love me.  God bless.  Thanks Amy and Thanks Joel.  

Jesus commands us to forgive and to forget the wrong that people have done to us, however, I do not believe He is telling us to put ourselves in a position to be mistreated by these same people. 

Matthew 18:15-17
“If your brother sins against you, go and tell him his fault, between you and him alone. If he listens to you, you have gained your brother. But if he does not listen, take one or two others along with you, that every charge may be established by the evidence of two or three witnesses. If he refuses to listen to them, tell it to the church. And if he refuses to listen even to the church, let him be to you as a Gentile and a tax collector."

I wanted to say that I do know that Jeffrey Dahmer was studied with. In fact I know the man who studied the bible with Jeffrey. However Jeffrey never fully was able to give his heart to the Lord at that time. His cousin was a longtime member of our church and tried to get Jeff to be saved. I hope that somehow he did get saved. Ted Bundy I don't think he ever got saved. I believe that he was too far into his demonic addictions to fully repent and save his soul. I once read a letter he wrote about his pornography addiction and though his story sounded sincere I saw no remorse in what was written. So I honestly don't know if either of these men gave their souls to God. One can only hope and we won't find out this side of heaven.

BTW, Josh Duggar isn't sorry. He cheated on his wife with multiple women and he was a part of a major hook up site for rich people.

I hope she divorces him and gets full custody of her kids.

But I know that sect of Christianity well b/c I was once a part of it and women esp. underage girls aren't much thought of.

I call it the Baptist Taliban.

I read that and I hope she wins. The wife needs to get away from him and get half his wealth before it's gone.

Like I said in my church thread my mom was told my the wife of pastor who married us, she had to stay married even if he was having an affair which he was.