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Post by Deleted on Mar 16, 2015 23:09:09 GMT -7
......."Do not bring a detestable thing into your house or you, like it, will be set apart for destruction. Utterly abhor and detest it, for it is set apart for destruction." Excerpt from Deuteronomy 7:25-26, NIV)
When you look at this scripture you start to reallise how destructive its imagery is - detestable, set apart for destruction, abhor and detest it. .
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Post by Deleted on Mar 17, 2015 13:07:30 GMT -7
Steve64, Good question. Is it like bringing the leaven into the kitchen? Leaven is likened to sin in the bible and many verses talk about sweeping it out and cleaning the house of it. A little bit of leaven ruins the whole batch. Nikanor
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Post by Deleted on Mar 17, 2015 13:56:01 GMT -7
Great question Steve.
I would like to add to this threat based on my own experiences. By bringing porn and associated sins into my house, I created an environment that robbed my wife of the relationship she believed she entered into. Because I kept my dark secrets hidden, she believed she was the issue. I, because I was a coward to tell the truth, allowed her to believe our issues were her problems. As a result, my wonderful wife has had a significant portion of her life destroyed by my actions. Not only has it affected my wife, but it has affected her relationships with her family and friends as well as my own family and friends. Most important, my activities prevented me from establishing a relationship with God. Therefore, I never stepped up to my role as head of the household. My involvement with porn let to me being emotionally anorexic, which has destroyed my relationship with my wife, quite probably beyond repair. NOTHING good come out of my association with porn...nothing. I will recover from this, with God's help, but there is a long line of destruction that lay behind me.
Not sure if I am on the same sheet as you, but this is what I felt compelled to write after reading your post.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 17, 2015 20:39:33 GMT -7
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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2015 14:01:10 GMT -7
Stev64,
I appreciate your thoughts and observations. As to saving my relationship with my wife. I am not optimistic. I lost her respect and trust. I'm not sure I can ever gain that back. However, only time will tell. Regardless of what happens with my relationship with my wife, I am dedicated to developing a strong relationship with God and I cannot do that if I continue to view porn, fantasize, objectify women, and MB. So, I have learned to keep my focus on Jesus. By doing so, it makes it much easier to follow in his footsteps. I WILL beat this battle. And having done so, and given some time, there is no way to tell where my wife and I may end up. Right now she needs time to heal. So, later this summer I expect her to move into her own place. She can't truly heal living under the same roof as me. I understand that.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2015 21:06:15 GMT -7
Thanks BOM for your candid response to this. I pray but also wish you the very best with this. It is all in God's hands - there is nothing you can do but trust in him alone. I will pray for God's will to be done in your situation - he has your best interests at heart.
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Post by KevinesKay on Mar 19, 2015 4:49:56 GMT -7
Steve, BOM,
I've thinking about this a lot. One of my outer circle behaviors states,
Maintain a home environment that is peaceful, calm, simple, and serene.
My home is my castle, my safe haven. I can't say that about any other place I live in, not even church. And to think that I let the enemy, pornography, into my home. That really displeases me.
Taking back my home for the glory of God has had some benefits. My daughter is still habitually getting up every morning for a quiet time with the Lord. She prays and worships Him with her ukulele. She's not even 8 yet. How cute. She saw me doing it, and now she's incorporating that into her life.
On the other hand, my oldest son, who loves me deeply, saw me at my worst. He witnessed the damage that my pornography use has done. My wife shared how this affects his security in his parents' marriage. Both of my sons have experimented with pornography themselves. And that makes me feel bad.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2015 12:14:19 GMT -7
Kevin,Don't focus too much on the negative of what your sons have seen and heard. You and your wife have set the record straight. Your sons will now see you as a real man. A man who treats women with respect. A real role model. You are not perfect only Jesus Christ was. And until we get there we're just going to have to keep picking up our bundle as we go. You're human and providing your intent to please God is there, nothing else matters.
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Post by wiltingiris on Mar 20, 2015 0:21:56 GMT -7
Well said Steve64 I can appreciate what you just said to Kevin, thank you.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 20, 2015 7:50:54 GMT -7
No problem at all Wiltingiris. He's going very well.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 22, 2015 10:43:00 GMT -7
To everyone on this thread...
There are good questions posed here and great responses. Just keep in mind that ultimately you want to be under the cross of Jesus and looking up. His dripping blood covers you and all the sin that resides in you from the past, the present, and the future. The hammer is in your hands, the evidence is plain and in sight. But his blood covers everything, it may seem messy, but remember he is willingly bleeding for every thought, word, and action you have ever taken and will take. When Christ rose from the grave that blood turned white and now you can approach God. Can you imagine it? Even though you sinned and continue to sin he loves you so much he willingly lets you hammer those nails in again and again and again, until you can't anymore because you can't bear that no matter how often or how hard you hammer he keeps taking it and doesn't fight you or try to escape even though he could destroy you in an instant.
His love for you and I is so deep you nor I will never understand the depths of it. But I am grateful nonetheless. Trust God to do the impossible because he did, he can, and he will. Sometimes we have to endure punishment for our wrongs, but that doesn't mean he doesn't love us or plan the best for us no more than we want that for our children who we punish when they do wrong. You have to have the long and loving view of the world. Our goal is to be with God eternally, not to conform to this world so what is 80 or however many years we have compared to eternity?
I am happy to be in his service to the others who need to know him.
Nikanor
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Post by Deleted on Mar 22, 2015 18:36:26 GMT -7
Thank You Nikanor for your powerful response. I think we all need to understand that it is a given that we have the cleansing power of Jesus' blood over us at all times. We just have to claim it - he is near.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 23, 2015 3:59:10 GMT -7
Steve64, I think that quote from Valiant Man's manual is correct to a point. Most of the porn images we have viewed and fantasies we have developed or played out are going to be in our heads for a long, long time to come. However, they do not need to rule us or dominate our decision making. Only by crowding them out with better visions of Jesus and the Gospel message will they fade. You need to take those thoughts (images, etc.) captive when they first come up and send them to your mental trash bin and think on Jesus, the cross, heaven, etc. This is why we need to memorize scripture, have Christian music running through our minds, great sermons, and so much more that will quickly if not automatically replace those programmed thoughts from long periods of exposure to porn or other erotic input. Starve the beast and feed the Lamb. All this takes hard work and dedication. Just my two cents worth. Nikanor
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Post by Deleted on Mar 23, 2015 15:57:09 GMT -7
Yes that's correct Nikanor. Jesus can restore our minds, no matter how much sin we have taken on board. The filth can be washed as white as snow - fading away in time with The Christian's fervent devotion to repentance.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 24, 2015 3:42:22 GMT -7
I think it's like having an umbrella with holes in it.
I warned my hubby that I was afraid to get married b/c I had been betrayed and hurt by everyone in my life including my parents. I wasn't even going to get married.
Not only did his porn use cause tension in our marriage, it caused many fights that the kids heard. And that affected them too. It bleeds into everyone in the house. My 12 yo says all she can remember is fighting.
My oldest was sent to the pshych ward last June b/c she txtd a friend she was going to kill herself. She also has an eating disorder.
He brought down to Hell with him. When I clicked on that link I saw something that made me sick to my stomach. I walked to my front window and a fear spread from my head to my feet. I had to confront him. That was 8 years ago.
We had a wonderful marriage for 7 years...until we go the internet.
What is that verse...."a little leaven leaventh the whole lump."
It robbed me of not only my relationship with him, but with my children as well b/c it drained me inside and made me feel dead. There were days to where I had to stay in bed or read books/articles all day b/c I was upset b/c he was either caught again, or I was just trying to deal with it. The constant roller coaster of him getting caught made me feel unsettled all the time.
We've been separated in the home for six months now. The fighting and tension is almost gone and I know have time to heal. I'm going to go to Celebrate Recovery with him if we can get rid of this stupid recurring sinus infection.
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