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Post by Deleted on Mar 13, 2007 10:42:39 GMT -7
I don't know that "wanting to" is a sin, or, at least not as much as the acting out. And I found that my "wanting to" is often Satan inserting thoughts that I don't recognize the source for (i.e., "temptation"). Over time, God can purify your desires, so that the "wanting to" gets less often and less strong. I'm thinking it will eventually just "go away", but I haven't gotten to that point yet... And, we never get to the point that we aren't subject to temptation. Jesus resisted temptation "unto blood", for our sakes. Scripture reading and prayer (sometimes I fall down on those) will help strengthen your resolve... Hang in there...
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Post by Deleted on Mar 26, 2007 8:51:19 GMT -7
This is great! I'm almost to 3 months without acting out! I still use Internet porn but this is far from the other sins of prostitution. I did think about it today and looked around the Internet thinking but I don't feel the urge "as much" to act out - I had better stop thinking about it before I go off the edge because I am still addicted - I'm not in a fantasy world...but I will say this...over time it does get easier - one time I went for 8 months...I just need to stay away from places where I will see prostitutes and spend any free time with family only...
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Post by Deleted on Apr 5, 2007 10:03:56 GMT -7
The lord is pushing the devil away - devil be gone! I have $80.00 in my pocket that my wife forgot about and I am not really craving massage parlors (where I used to spend). I accidentially was in the wrong part of town and passed by someone I could be with and I kept driving - tempted a bit. Over 3 months now with no problems! Saw a sex addiction movie on Lifetime - excellent movie on our problems - I recommend it...interesting to see my life from the other side - kind of like watching my life way up in the air looking down...here's a link to the movie info - my wife was able to watch it with me and I think it helped her to understand the problem more:
www.imdb.com/title/tt0286077/usercomments
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Post by Deleted on Apr 12, 2007 5:41:22 GMT -7
I'm a bit stressed today - so I find myself cruising the Internet for prostitution info. - still I'm going for my 4th month clean...I'm going to make it.
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Post by TimM on Apr 12, 2007 7:20:55 GMT -7
What would be better ways to deal with the stress that bring you into relationship with other people and that don't put you in harm's way?
Tim M.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 18, 2007 5:45:48 GMT -7
I read this a few days ago and could not think of anyone or activity - again drawing a blank today - but I know you are absolutely right...this is the key...
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Post by Deleted on May 3, 2007 6:36:04 GMT -7
4 months and no acting out with prostitutes - I'm very happy but know I'm always on the edge...I must stay strong and attend to my family.
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2009 6:47:56 GMT -7
Here's an update on my addiction - I went for 16 months without visiting a prostitute until April 2008. I then went to a strip club and masturbated in a private room in front of a stripper who allowed this sort of thing. Since then I have been clean again for 14 months with one major slip up in between where I went cruising for massage parlors in a city I did not know well and only could find legitimate places. So if I had found one I would have gone in and acted out. My wife knew I was going out that day and allowed me to do this - she is religious and knows about my problem - I tell her when I act out - really need to find a sponsor - need to attend the live chats soon. I never carry cash - during the last 5 years of marriage and this solves most problems - what is solving most of my problems now is my 2 small kids who need constant attention by my wife and myself - I work from home and this helps too - soon I will be traveling a lot and prostitutes will be easy to come by again as they were before so I am not kidding myself...I wish one of these major drug companies would spend a billion developing a sex addict pill - an addict in general pill for the people who have drug problems, etc.
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2009 10:17:52 GMT -7
The 14 and 16 month periods of abstinence are great. May you find a way to continue them and make them life-long!
[user=774]addictionbegone[/user] wrote:So what's your timetable on that? Not to put too fine a point on it, but you were saying that in 2007, too. Do you just need to do it, or are you actually going to do it?
For me, travel is a huge trigger. I would want to have a very solid support system in place and a good bit of sobriety before undertaking the amount of travel you talk about. Would your plan at this point be to build that support now or to go ahead and walk into possible failure and then to talk about support later?
There have been experimental studies in which drugs used to reduce cravings in other addicts have been helpful to sex addicts as well. It's possible you might find a psychiatrist who would be willing to prescribe something, though I assume they would want to insist upon conventional supports like counseling and support groups as well. I don't have a reference off the top of my head, but I can probably find one if you're serious about seeing a doctor and a counselor and getting support. Just let me know.
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2009 16:10:25 GMT -7
Ok, I will find support ahead of time - I did say this before - kind of like exercise - my wife mocks me on this because I talk...I will have a support system in place - I need to get online on a regular schedule and I also need to have someone I can call on the phone - I will look into this...I will have a GPS tracker that costs $9.95/month that shows where I am on computer at all times for my wife to verify. Although I really should not involve her...but no one else knows about my problem...need to figure this out. Thanks for holding my feet to the fire - I will get more organized. My therapist in my old city recommended I stay away from the drugs unless I get even more out of control - forget to mention this - because they are anti depress drugs which will affect my personality in negative ways...I need to research this some more - I just wish there was something with less side affects...magic pill if you will...
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Post by john on May 29, 2009 23:43:53 GMT -7
I used to wish for a magic pill too...hoping that God would zap me and I would never lust again. I have since discovered that God was interested in developing my character and he has used recovery from porn addiction more than anything else in my life to do just that. Looking back, I would not change it. Recovery is tough work sometimes, it can be very painful. But, the fruit of righteousness and peace that it brings makes it very, very worthwhile!
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Post by Deleted on May 30, 2009 8:54:31 GMT -7
Hard for me to see this but in an abstract way I see what you mean. I hope I can benefit like you have...I'm sure my character could use some improving :-)
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Post by Deleted on Mar 11, 2012 4:54:44 GMT -7
It's been 3 more years so here's an update. We have since moved so my old neighborhood is gone. Went to a massage parlor near my old home last year and told wife. In my new state went driving around looking for a prostitute about 6 months ago - luckily found none and told my wife. Travel a lot but in the countryside so really no chance unless I go out of my way. Now wife will be suspicious if I am away for more than 2 hours - impossible to go to bigger city to see prostitute without wife knowing...
Fantasize about seeing my wife with another man which wife does not like. After I complete I tell her I am not interested in this coming a reality. Even though I would like to see this happen. I'm pretty much stuck in fantasies but if I saw a prostitute I would lose. My wife and I are with each other 24/7 except for once a week where I travel for a few hours. If I did not come home in time she would know so this keeps me from prostitutes. I also carry no cash still - what a pain - but it's a bit of a buffer just in case.
One of my fantasies with my wife that is coming into play is her divorcing me and we remain good friends. I would like her to be happy and I sometimes wish I could go back to living with my problem. I could see prostitutes and be super careful of not getting a disease (manual release by her), robbed or killed (paranoid keeps me careful), or arrested (paranoid). Nothing is fool proof but I really enjoyed my life back then.
but...I have a wonderful family life now too - my wife and I are perfect with one another even though for the past 7 years we have been together 24/7 with loud and young kids - we still get along great. Sex is the one divider...
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Post by Deleted on Mar 11, 2012 8:37:36 GMT -7
Thanks for the report! The board is so quiet these days that hearing from anyone is lovely.
Do you mind a comment? It's great that you've managed to find a way to stay largely sober, but it doesn't sound like it's a lot of fun, either for you or for your wife, and it doesn't sound like it's really a stable thing. It feels like you've changed external conditions, but have left the inner man unchanged. Sort of like getting sober from alcohol by moving to Saudi Arabia, which will work until you go home, or find another drug, or learn where the dealers are, or whatever.
Years of sobriety are great, but I'm depressed by how painful it sounds. It's not like what I read about in the Big Book, which talks about no longer thinking about alcohol, about drawing back from it as from a hot flame, about becoming happy, joyous and free.
By contrast, there's tremendous ambivalence in your message. You have a wonderful family life, but you'd like to divorce so you can go back to the life you really enjoyed. It's like a post 5 years ago where you said in a single sentence that you were super happy with your life, and that you looked forward to dying.
I'm not writing this at all as criticism. That kind of warfare with self is what addiction is about. I just wonder if there isn't some path that might lead you not just to being sober because you've chained yourself in, but to being happy, joyous and free?
You talked in the past about working with a therapist and about being committed to getting a sponsor and to attending electronic meetings. Are you still doing those things, and does your therapist know about the tension you're experiencing?
It may well be that your problems are deep enough that even doing everything you can, sobriety is all you can hope for, and serenity is out of the question. I sure wouldn't want to admit that without being absolutely positive I had tried everything, though. It's possible to be pretty messed up and still to find peace. Are there are more things you can do to go deeper and really find freedom? If so, that could be a huge gift to your wife, to your children, and to yourself. And I've known a lot of people who have done that, people who moved from seriously illegal behavior to sobriety and to peace and to joy.
Hang onto that hope as long as you can.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 12, 2012 1:22:27 GMT -7
[user=774]addictionbegone[/user] wrote: What do you mean?
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