Post by teetop on Oct 19, 2018 7:47:10 GMT -7
I just wanted to see when and how often people find it helpful to check in here for accountability. I'm not using the "Add Poll" option on this post because I wanted everyone to have the opportunity to leave a freeform response since I'm sure it may vary. For example, do you check in:
Regularly, and how often (daily? weekly? etc.), whether you've faced challenges or not?
As needed, ahead of time (such as when you expect to face triggers/temptations)?
As needed, after yielding to temptations?
Other?
And do you find that your method of checking in help, or do you think to do something different would be more helpful?Well, I'm currently sitting down here at a McDonalds, getting ready to do some more packing, for storage. Homelessness is not to much fun, but then neither is porn, masturbation, day-dreaming, and all their ilks.
To answer your question from my point of view, I check in to see, who's doing the most grumbling about their spouses and how loud some like to beat their own drum. And as for temptation, scripture assures us we all are tempted, but not beyond our ability to handle it. So, that means we don't need pop-psychology to overcome the temptations but to trust in the Lord.
(1Co 10:13 No temptation has overtaken you but such as is common to man; and God is faithful, who will not allow you to be tempted beyond what you are able, but with the temptation will provide the way of escape also, so that you will be able to endure it. NASV)
Though any scripture quoted needs to be placed in its own context, this one strikes me as being able to stand on its own. Now I can not speak for anyone else on this site, but we do need to maintain the understanding; The Battle of the sexes is at work here too. Reminds me of a run-in with a woman at a local Church, while wanting to talk to a pastor about a privet matter about our addiction. She got extremely agitated when I insisted I wanted to talk to a pastor.(Male) She kept insisting she was a pastor (To me that strikes as a little un-biblical) Typical though in this day and age. Mostly coming from the New Age teachings coupled with fulfilling the curse spoken by God at the fall of man In Genesis.
The Fall
(Gen 3:1 Now the serpent was more crafty than any beast of the field which the LORD God had made. And he said to the woman, "Indeed, has God said, 'You shall not eat from any tree of the garden'?"
Gen 3:2 The woman said to the serpent, "From the fruit of the trees of the garden we may eat;
Gen 3:3 but from the fruit of the tree which is in the middle of the garden, God has said, 'You shall not eat from it or touch it, or you will die.'"
Gen 3:4 The serpent said to the woman, "You surely will not die!
Gen 3:5 "For God knows that in the day you eat from it your eyes will be opened, and you will be like God, knowing good and evil."
Gen 3:6 When the woman saw that the tree was good for food, and that it was a delight to the eyes, and that the tree was desirable to make one wise, she took from its fruit and ate; and she gave also to her husband with her, and he ate.
Gen 3:7 Then the eyes of both of them were opened, and they knew that they were naked; and they sewed fig leaves together and made themselves loin coverings.
Gen 3:8 They heard the sound of the LORD God walking in the garden in the cool of the day, and the man and his wife hid themselves from the presence of the LORD God among the trees of the garden.
Gen 3:9 Then the LORD God called to the man, and said to him, "Where are you?"
Gen 3:10 He said, "I heard the sound of You in the garden, and I was afraid because I was naked; so I hid myself."
Gen 3:11 And He said, "Who told you that you were naked? Have you eaten from the tree of which I commanded you not to eat?"
Gen 3:12 The man said, "The woman whom You gave to be with me, she gave me from the tree, and I ate."
Gen 3:13 Then the LORD God said to the woman, "What is this you have done?" And the woman said, "The serpent deceived me, and I ate."
Gen 3:14 The LORD God said to the serpent, "Because you have done this, Cursed are you more than all cattle, And more than every beast of the field; On your belly you will go, And dust you will eat All the days of your life;
Gen 3:15 And I will put enmity Between you and the woman, And between your seed and her seed; He shall bruise you on the head, And you shall bruise him on the heel."
Gen 3:16 To the woman He said, "I will greatly multiply Your pain in childbirth, In pain you will bring forth children; Yet your desire will be for your husband, And he will rule over you."
Gen 3:17 Then to Adam He said, "Because you have listened to the voice of your wife, and have eaten from the tree about which I commanded you, saying, 'You shall not eat from it'; Cursed is the ground because of you; In toil you will eat of it All the days of your life.
Gen 3:18 "Both thorns and thistles it shall grow for you; And you will eat the plants of the field;
Gen 3:19 By the sweat of your face You will eat bread, Till you return to the ground, Because from it you were taken; For you are dust, And to dust you shall return."
Gen 3:20 Now the man called his wife's name Eve, because she was the mother of all the living.
Gen 3:21 The LORD God made garments of skin for Adam and his wife, and clothed them.
Gen 3:22 Then the LORD God said, "Behold, the man has become like one of Us, knowing good and evil; and now, he might stretch out his hand, and take also from the tree of life, and eat, and live forever"—
Gen 3:23 therefore the LORD God sent him out from the garden of Eden, to cultivate the ground from which he was taken.
Gen 3:24 So He drove the man out; and at the east of the garden of Eden He stationed the cherubim and the flaming sword which turned every direction to guard the way to the tree of life. NASV)
I highlighted the important parts of this account of the curse. The word desire is not a positive one but a negative and has to do with authoritative power. I would also draw your attention to the next use of this same word in Genesis;
Gen 4:6 Then the LORD said to Cain, "Why are you angry? And why has your countenance fallen?
Gen 4:7 "If you do well, will not your countenance be lifted up? And if you do not do well, sin is crouching at the door; and its desire is for you, but you must master it." NASV)
Enough for me at this time as I've got to get busy.
Virgil
Regularly, and how often (daily? weekly? etc.), whether you've faced challenges or not?
As needed, ahead of time (such as when you expect to face triggers/temptations)?
As needed, after yielding to temptations?
Other?
And do you find that your method of checking in help, or do you think to do something different would be more helpful?Well, I'm currently sitting down here at a McDonalds, getting ready to do some more packing, for storage. Homelessness is not to much fun, but then neither is porn, masturbation, day-dreaming, and all their ilks.
To answer your question from my point of view, I check in to see, who's doing the most grumbling about their spouses and how loud some like to beat their own drum. And as for temptation, scripture assures us we all are tempted, but not beyond our ability to handle it. So, that means we don't need pop-psychology to overcome the temptations but to trust in the Lord.
(1Co 10:13 No temptation has overtaken you but such as is common to man; and God is faithful, who will not allow you to be tempted beyond what you are able, but with the temptation will provide the way of escape also, so that you will be able to endure it. NASV)
Though any scripture quoted needs to be placed in its own context, this one strikes me as being able to stand on its own. Now I can not speak for anyone else on this site, but we do need to maintain the understanding; The Battle of the sexes is at work here too. Reminds me of a run-in with a woman at a local Church, while wanting to talk to a pastor about a privet matter about our addiction. She got extremely agitated when I insisted I wanted to talk to a pastor.(Male) She kept insisting she was a pastor (To me that strikes as a little un-biblical) Typical though in this day and age. Mostly coming from the New Age teachings coupled with fulfilling the curse spoken by God at the fall of man In Genesis.
The Fall
(Gen 3:1 Now the serpent was more crafty than any beast of the field which the LORD God had made. And he said to the woman, "Indeed, has God said, 'You shall not eat from any tree of the garden'?"
Gen 3:2 The woman said to the serpent, "From the fruit of the trees of the garden we may eat;
Gen 3:3 but from the fruit of the tree which is in the middle of the garden, God has said, 'You shall not eat from it or touch it, or you will die.'"
Gen 3:4 The serpent said to the woman, "You surely will not die!
Gen 3:5 "For God knows that in the day you eat from it your eyes will be opened, and you will be like God, knowing good and evil."
Gen 3:6 When the woman saw that the tree was good for food, and that it was a delight to the eyes, and that the tree was desirable to make one wise, she took from its fruit and ate; and she gave also to her husband with her, and he ate.
Gen 3:7 Then the eyes of both of them were opened, and they knew that they were naked; and they sewed fig leaves together and made themselves loin coverings.
Gen 3:8 They heard the sound of the LORD God walking in the garden in the cool of the day, and the man and his wife hid themselves from the presence of the LORD God among the trees of the garden.
Gen 3:9 Then the LORD God called to the man, and said to him, "Where are you?"
Gen 3:10 He said, "I heard the sound of You in the garden, and I was afraid because I was naked; so I hid myself."
Gen 3:11 And He said, "Who told you that you were naked? Have you eaten from the tree of which I commanded you not to eat?"
Gen 3:12 The man said, "The woman whom You gave to be with me, she gave me from the tree, and I ate."
Gen 3:13 Then the LORD God said to the woman, "What is this you have done?" And the woman said, "The serpent deceived me, and I ate."
Gen 3:14 The LORD God said to the serpent, "Because you have done this, Cursed are you more than all cattle, And more than every beast of the field; On your belly you will go, And dust you will eat All the days of your life;
Gen 3:15 And I will put enmity Between you and the woman, And between your seed and her seed; He shall bruise you on the head, And you shall bruise him on the heel."
Gen 3:16 To the woman He said, "I will greatly multiply Your pain in childbirth, In pain you will bring forth children; Yet your desire will be for your husband, And he will rule over you."
Gen 3:17 Then to Adam He said, "Because you have listened to the voice of your wife, and have eaten from the tree about which I commanded you, saying, 'You shall not eat from it'; Cursed is the ground because of you; In toil you will eat of it All the days of your life.
Gen 3:18 "Both thorns and thistles it shall grow for you; And you will eat the plants of the field;
Gen 3:19 By the sweat of your face You will eat bread, Till you return to the ground, Because from it you were taken; For you are dust, And to dust you shall return."
Gen 3:20 Now the man called his wife's name Eve, because she was the mother of all the living.
Gen 3:21 The LORD God made garments of skin for Adam and his wife, and clothed them.
Gen 3:22 Then the LORD God said, "Behold, the man has become like one of Us, knowing good and evil; and now, he might stretch out his hand, and take also from the tree of life, and eat, and live forever"—
Gen 3:23 therefore the LORD God sent him out from the garden of Eden, to cultivate the ground from which he was taken.
Gen 3:24 So He drove the man out; and at the east of the garden of Eden He stationed the cherubim and the flaming sword which turned every direction to guard the way to the tree of life. NASV)
I highlighted the important parts of this account of the curse. The word desire is not a positive one but a negative and has to do with authoritative power. I would also draw your attention to the next use of this same word in Genesis;
Gen 4:6 Then the LORD said to Cain, "Why are you angry? And why has your countenance fallen?
Gen 4:7 "If you do well, will not your countenance be lifted up? And if you do not do well, sin is crouching at the door; and its desire is for you, but you must master it." NASV)
Enough for me at this time as I've got to get busy.
Virgil