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Post by Deleted on May 2, 2016 11:19:49 GMT -7
My H confessed to having a problem with PA in early March. We've been married for 8.5 years and together since early highschool. He finally admitted to having this struggle since teenage years and that he's tried to beat it on his own and hasn't been able to. He said he has gone years in between at times and always goes back. He has taken steps this time such as acknowledging it, installing xxxchurch software, has an accountability partner, going to Celebrate Recovery group.
I find myself unable to/unwilling to ask questions regarding specifics about the level of addiction, current struggles he's having, if he's fantasized about my friends, church friends, relatives, etc. I'm afraid to ask these questions because of what the answers could be and further pain it would cause. I feel like I need to know in order to start difficult communication between us and to fully recover. If I notice him looking at a woman, whether I know them or not, I don't bring it up but I think I need to, otherwise I internalize it and it continues to fester in my heart and anger towards my H. Any advice on wives who have asked the hard questions or who have chosen not to? Any H's willing to share your thoughts?
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Post by Deleted on May 2, 2016 12:11:45 GMT -7
It sounds like your husband is doing as much as possible in dealing with his addiction. I tell my wife the nature of my addiction and where I go off track so she can keep me accountable, but I never go into specific details as I was advised by my counsellor and other resource people. I guess every situation is different but good honest discussion without judgement really helped me to open up to my wife. I see her pain and fear at times though and how it stresses her out. I try not to respond in anger when she suspects me when I'm doing ok. I am the one that broke trust so I should expect her to be suspicious. It's my job to earn trust back. My real issue isn't the porn. It's the underlying fears of intimacy and shame that God wants to deal with. I hope your husband can listen to your heart when you share how much this hurts you. Being a team fighting against porn together will strengthen your marriage.
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Post by Deleted on May 2, 2016 12:32:22 GMT -7
some women need to know everything, some dont want to know. Me, I wanted to know everything. But you cant unknow what you have been told. If you can tolerate not knowing the details, it may be healthier in the long run. However, as a general rule its necessary to know: The periods of time use began and ended. The forms of media and of acting out (eg mb, just viewing p, chatrooms, prostitutes, hook ups) If anything illegal has been involved. If anyone you know has been complicit in supply or has been used as fantasy. What are known triggers for your husband.
it would be horrendous to find out people you know have been involved but i believe we would rather cut contact than carry on dumbly with them around our husbands. Same for triggers. You wouldnt watch a certain programme if you knew it was a trigger for your husband.
Its very encouraging that he has confessed to you. Believe me that is rare and it shows a man who wants to stop, not one who wants to stop because he's been caught and he doesnt like the trouble its now caused. A man who is so broken by his sin that he confesses voluntarily is in the best place to beat this addiction for good. Of course it doesnt stop your confusion and feelings of betrayal right now, but it gives a lot of hope .
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Post by Deleted on May 2, 2016 19:16:36 GMT -7
I agree with both Brave and Elle. Be careful with asking about specific details because you will get more then you expect if he is honest with you right off the bat. It will hurt you deeply even if you think you are prepared for it.
I want to add to Elle's list. Pray over your husband and pray for yourself. You will both be needing guidance from God to combat this problem. Get yourself into counseling if you can. It helps to have a sounding board.
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Post by Deleted on May 3, 2016 14:47:50 GMT -7
Thank you for the responses. I may write a letter to my husband with some of my questions that I'd like him to think and reflect over before we discuss his responses. I think that our overall communication needs to improve and this issue has brought that to the surface. I don't want to internalize things, as I've observed firsthand how unhealthy it is from seeing it in my parents' marriage. My husband has a difficult time identifying triggers or reasons for his porn addiction. Which makes it very confusing for me to understand. We've had a very consistent and fulfilling sex life, or so I thought. He is very outgoing and not isolated or unsocial.
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Post by Deleted on May 3, 2016 15:21:30 GMT -7
Have you ever listened to Patrick Doyle from Veritas Counseling? The Dove tv has him on and they post his talks on YouTube. He is constantly telling people to write letters to each other when dealing with these types of issues. It helps keep things from getting out of hand. Anyway he is awesome to listen to if you haven't run across him yet.
When I started out my recovery journey, I didn't know what my triggers were either. It's a learning process. I learned quickly what I could handle and what I couldn't. The SA needs to be vigilant and self aware to learn their triggers. Maybe suggest that your husband keep a small note pad with him and when something triggers him, he can write down the trigger. Another thing to keep in mind is that triggers can change over time. I was fine with tv to begin with but now I can't watch much tv. I end up having to leave the room because everything is so sexualized now. Same with movies...I have had to get up and walk out because of what they allow under pg13 ratings. As I became more sensitized to these things I have had to be more strict with what I allow in my life. Watching/reading porn or erotica desenitizes you and when you start breaking free from it that sensitivity comes back.
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Post by Deleted on May 3, 2016 21:13:21 GMT -7
I lean heavy on the side that as a wife, you need to find out what's really going on. Ask the hard questions and be prepared for answers you don't want to hear. Get the help of a therapist who specializes in sex addiction - working with the addict and helping the spouse deal with the trauma of it. Neither of you can handle the addiction and the destruction it brings on your own. Sounds like your husband has taken a few, small steps in the right direction. He has support - you need your own support as well.
I urge wives who say their husband has a porn problem to investigate and make certain what you are dealing with. Make the effort to find out if there is more to it that no one knows but your husband. Knowing reality could be the difference between life and death in an age of fatal STDs. Sex addiction is progressive. It starts with porn, and can progress to acting out physically with others via massage parties, affairs, prostitutes, etc. I'm not trying to scare you, just trying to urge you to have courage and pursue the truth. My own husband's addiction began as a child and progressed way beyond porn as an adult. It's only by the grace of God that we are both healthy today. Find out the truth. No matter how difficult it may be.
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Post by Deleted on May 10, 2016 19:49:07 GMT -7
Hope22 is right. You must make sure that you are safe by finding out if he is acting out in physical ways, it could mean the difference between life and death. I found out my husband had unprotected sex with a random woman, then came home to me. When the truth came out, I asked him if he used a condom...he looked at me then bowed his head in shame. Take NOTHING at face value, ask the questions to protect yourself and your children, if you have them.
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