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Post by Deleted on Feb 24, 2016 19:51:29 GMT -7
I am a newlywed. Well, fairly newlywed at least. When my husband and I got married a year and a half ago, I was a virgin. I had chosen to wait until marriage because of my religious beliefs. My husband, then fiancé seemed to support me in this decision. Although he had had sex in the past he had never pressured me to have sex with him and I was relieved. On our wedding night, he started to mess around with me and then ended up turning on ESPN. I assumed it was just because we hadn't finished our natural family planning classes and we definitely aren't ready for a baby. At the time, a close family member of mine was dying so we delayed the honeymoon, and sex. When I asked him why he wouldn't sleep with me he said he didn't feel right because of everything going on in my life. Months went by after she passed and still nothig. I would put so much effort in with fancy dates and lingerie but he showed no interest and would blow me off for tv. Last year around this time, I remember it was right after valentines day we had had a really good date but he left for the weekend because of graduate school. He had signed in to Facebook using my computer when I noticed he had been searching many girls I had never heard if. Later that night he was having a casual conversation on the phone with me when the girls crossed my mind so I asked him who they were. Not expecting any suspicions I didn't think it would be that big of a deal but the phone went silent. When he finally spoke he came clean about his porn addiction. Said that our entire relationship and well before that he had been addicted to porn and the addiction gradually got worse leading him to use pictures of my friends enemies and even his last serious girlfriend. I thought my marriage had just ended. I seriously considered leaving because we had not yet even consummated the marriage - 9 months after our wedding day. A friend of mine encouraged me to give him the benefit of the doubt so I stayed. I thought if we finally had sex he wouldn't need his addiction anymore so I slept with him. He told me he felt guilty because he thought of his ex girlfriend he used to sleep with while taking my virginity. That was tough to hear. Several nights later having sex for maybe the 3rd time, he completely stopped and said he couldn't continue because he was thinking of a classmate of his. Not to mention the sex up until this point throughout our entire relationship any intimacy was entirely one sided. I never felt loved or pleasured. That moment he stopped hurt me more than anything and I believe it was the moment I stopped loving him. I feel trapped in this marriage. We have had sex maybe once in the last year as a desperate attempt to fix things because we have tried everything else. I have become insanely self conscious and have absolutely no sex drive. I resent him most of the time for the way he makes me feel about myself. He thinks aside from the sex thing that the rest of our marriage is fine even though I try to convey to him that my metal and emotional health are not. I am dying to talk to someone about it but this is not something youcan openly share without dragging his name through the mud and word gets around fast in a small town. I hae been seeking self esteem retreats for women to try to take care of myself throughout all of this. Prayers would be appreciated
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Post by Deleted on Feb 24, 2016 19:55:17 GMT -7
I forgot to mention tht on our honeymoon we never had sex or any intimate relationship of any kind. He didn't touch me. Once towards the end of the week I walked in on him masturbating in the shower. This was after everything was all out in the open and I thought we were suppose to be recovering. I am just looking for anyone who can relate. It makes me sick when people say they just want to feel like newlywed a again because I never had that and I know I never will. It hurts so much more because I abstained from sex because it was so important to me and I wanted it to be special. The one person who was supposed to respect and share that with me it meant nothing to. Very hard when you lose your virginity to a husband in love with the images In his head from his past
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Post by Deleted on Feb 25, 2016 8:48:25 GMT -7
Helplessly hurting,
I'm so sorry for all the pain you have experienced in what should be your most joyous and encouraging relationship. I have shared my story in this section as well, my husband has been struggling with his addiction to pornography for 20 years now and we'll be married for 5 year this May- and it's only been since This past Dec 2015 that we have started our journey of healing and recovery together. I have fully known about his struggle for 2 1/2 years, but I tried to ignore it - that did not work and I recognize it has caused bitterness and anger to grow in me and now I have to let God work these out in me for my own healing. We have now put some boundaries in place so far that show me my husband is serious about fighting for our marriage and turning from this sin. Right now these include monitoring software on computer/phones/tablets and weekly accountability with me. We are working on more as God leads. You have said in your post that you tried everything, I was wondering what you have tried? Have you researched sexual addiction? Has your husband shared this with anyone besides you? I would encourage you to start with many of the articles on this site and go from there bc they are shorter so not as overwhelming. There are a number of members who are much further along in this journey of healing and recovery and all that they have to share is so helpful! I'm saying a prayer for you just now and I know you said you have religious beliefs, so I pray that God will encourage your heart and give you wisdom with how to move forward in your marriage.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 26, 2016 9:42:35 GMT -7
Helplesslyhurting welcome to BG. I am saddened that this sin has caused more hurting in others however I am glad you are reaching out for help, support and encouragement. How is your walk with our Father? Are you leaning on Him more or pulling away from Him? I know with me when I hurt horribly I tend to pull away from everyone including God. It is our nature to hide when we feel the most vulnerable. Do a heart check hon and be sure you are leaning on God during this very difficult season.
I too went through what you experienced on your honeymoon with my ex not able to be intimate with me. It hurts like no other.
You need to take care of yourself. Get into counseling with a licenced therapist. They are required by law to keep things confidential...at least that is true here in the USA. Not sure where you are from. Christmyanchor has given some good advice with putting down boundaries and educating yourself about this sin. There is a bunch of science out there but what is more important is the biblical aspect of this sin. Be sure to look at both sides. Christ overcame the world and we have Him living in us which gives us an advantage over this. I am praying for you and your husband.
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Post by KevinesKay on Feb 27, 2016 21:02:03 GMT -7
I have a lot a thoughts and experience about s*xual anorexia. I believe PA, SA, and S*xual Anorexia really aren't that unrelated. In fact, SLAA has an entire sext of members that categorize themselves as s*xual anorexics.
For me, choosing healthy s*xuality can be very challenging. It's doesn't hold the same charge and energy as p*rnographic s*x. For most of my life, s*x was P. And learning to undo that has been a long process.
S*xual anorexia is also characterized by a need for control. For me, both p*rn addiction and s*xual anorexia are fueled by inner resentments within myself. And I can respond in both of these ways. It isn't uncommon for a PA or SA to be acting with out everyone or everything except with his/her own spouse.
As I mentioned before, when I choose to be s*xually anorexic with my wife. The underlying, subconscious reason is to establish control. I may be feeling resentment about the finances, or an argument or disagreement, or the children, or not feeling like I can do what I want. And I avoid s*x, which provides a sense of control. My spouse may complain about why I'm alway too tired to have s*x. But oftentimes, my flesh reads as confirmation that my strategy to obtain control via s*xual anorexia is working. A good book to read about this is "S*xual Anorexia" by Patrick Carnes.
I recently read a book by Dr. Dobson. "Love Must Be Tough". For me, that gives a lot of good advice for spouses that are being neglected or cheated on. Dr. Dobson mentions in this book that being passive, waiting for the spouse to change on his own, usually doesn't work. He suggest creating a crisis in which the addict must make a crucial decision (i.e. stop the cheating or you'll have live somewhere else.) It's tough, but it makes sense.
Blessings to you. I will keep you and your husband in my prayers.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 29, 2016 8:08:12 GMT -7
Welcome helplesslyhurting, So sorry for all that you are going through, but glad that you have found this forum as a place to reach out, discuss, and be encouraged.
I do not have experience with sexual anorexia in my marriage; however, I do have experience being married to a man who struggles with sex addiction. One thing I would encourage you to really consider is setting some strong boundaries in your marriage. As a wife you deserve to be loved and cherished by your husband. From what you have described, that is not happening. It sounds like you may be enduring emotional abuse as well as no sexual intimacy between a husband and wife. If your husband is fine with the way things are between you, you may need to upset the status quo to get him to seriously consider getting help for himself and making changes. Setting firm boundaries is not easy, nor fun. It's scary, but necessary to protect yourself emotionally, physically, and spiritually. It takes strength and relying on the Lord to help you stick to your decisions and follow through.
Have you considered joining a support group for wives of sex addicts or seeing a counselor who is familiar with addiction? Both can be very helpful with helping set boundaries, identifying behavior that is not acceptable, and helping you process your emotions and make God honoring decisions. Are there any groups/therapists available to you in a nearby city? A wives support group was invaluable to me for the first 3 years of recovery. The group really helped me work on getting strong emotionally, encouraged me to stand firm in the boundaries I had set, and was a safe place to talk about what was really going on in my life. I drove 1 1/2 hours each week to a nearby city to attend it. It was well worth the effort and time to help me keep my sanity. There is also a phone support group for wives of sex addicts (in the U.S) that a friend of mine participated in and got a lot out of. If you are interested in exploring that let me know and I can get the info on it to you. Just some options to consider.
My husband acted out with prostitutes for many years prior to my discovery of it 5 years ago. I was devastated and shocked to learn the double life he had been living. At the very beginning, I had to set a firm boundary with him that got his attention. He had to choose between expensive, intensive therapy for sex addiction or a divorce attorney. He chose the therapy which began his journey of recovery from sex addiction.
Addiction breeds self absorption, and in the midst of life as usual, most don't want help, because they are getting everything they want. There is no catalyst to change anything. Your husband has to realize he has a major problem and the only way to do that is to allow him to experience the consequences and problems that arise from his addiction. Think about what you need to be safe emotionally, physically, and spiritually to help you come up with firm boundaries, set them, and stick to them.
All that being said, there really is hope for healing and recovery. The addict and the spouse both have to be all in - and both pursuing Christ, turning from old, destructive actions and patterns and turning toward new, positive patterns and actions. It's a very long, painful road - but I can testify that God does amazing things in absolutely hopeless situations, when we fervently seek him. I will be praying for you and your husband.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 29, 2016 17:07:00 GMT -7
Thank you to everyone who has responded. Honestly, just knowing other people are dealing with this helps so much. I have tried to find support groups for wives near me and I have not yet come up with anything. All of the support groups I have found are for the addict. My husband says he will go but doesn't see the point because he has been "sober" of his addiction for almost a year. While he feels like this is all behind us, the sexual anorexia is undeniable. I think he feels ready to move on, but I am not. I know the anorexia is now "my fault" because I am now the one who is not in the mood, but the resentment and hurt is so strong. Not to mention I have zero drive. I have lost so much self esteem I am very uncomfortable and constantly wonder what he is thinking. Just doesn't feel worth it anymore. I don't know how to develop enough trust to even be attracted to him again. I worry that I will never want to be intimate with him. Because he has put this behind him, he doesn't seem very empathetic to me that I haven't
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Post by Deleted on Mar 1, 2016 8:54:11 GMT -7
Hon, please take the steps necessary to start your healing. Find a counselor. Maybe down the road you can do couples counseling with your husband but first you need to start your own healing. Men can be unaware of what a woman goes through because they think and process things differently that does not invalidate your need to heal from all this. Do what you need to do to heal without him validating this process. Take care of yourself and then look at healing your marriage.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 2, 2016 23:17:23 GMT -7
Hi hopelesslyhurting, Check out the "Helpful Resources" portion of the forum. I just recently discovered it myself, and I posted some info about a counseling/support group for wives there. Oftentimes, it's really difficult to find a counselor or group for wives near home. This group offers over the phone counseling and support groups for wives and even works with international clients.
Your husband needs a support group. Sex/porn addiction can't be conquered alone. He needs other men to keep him accountable, encourage him, and call him out on things when needed.
Can he substantiate that he has not viewed porn in a year? Is he providing you with proof of that by allowing his phone, computer, all devices be monitored by a reporting software like covenant eyes?
Some type of support whether it be through a counselor or group is really beneficial. I hear you blaming yourself in your post. That's totally normal and so easy to do, but your husbands sex addiction and anorexia is not your fault. Please, please don't blame yourself. I have fallen into this trap myself - very common for wives of SA. Your husband became a sex addict due to his own bad choices. You are not to blame!
As for trust - it's your husbands job to consistently work hard to show you over and over that he is trustworthy. Not just by saying the words - words mean nothing - but by his actions of consistently providing proof that he can be trusted. Look for that, and if it's not there - your simply responding reasonably to protect yourself from further harm.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 5, 2016 19:34:28 GMT -7
My husband has supposedly been "sober" for almost a year now, but seems to have zero sex drive or zero interest in me. In the past year, I think we have maybe had sex once. I am wondering if anyone else experienced any similar issues? Because of his addictions in the past, I am very critical of myself thinking maybe I just cant compete with the images that turn him on. I have no reason to suspect he isn't telling the truth about quitting. His computer and phone histories are always clean. It just seems like even though the addiction is gone, nothing in our relationship has changed at all. Every free second he has is spent doing his hobbies such as hunting, fishing etc. very little time is ever spent with me. Today for example he actually started to hug me and cuddle with me when I got home from work and as soon as I tried to initiate intimacy he decided it was time to run errands. He continued to blow me off for the rest of the night researching hunting videos on his laptop and scrolling through his phone (which seems to be how most days go.) When I confronted him tonight I couldn't stop crying because my self esteem is destroyed from rejection and he sat with me awhile and then simply got up, left the room, and went to bed. I don't know how he can sleep in the other room when he knows I am in here crying and how hurt I really am by his actions, and lack of action. This is by no means the first time we have had this type of conversation. I tell him all the time that I don't feel like my needs are being met, and still nothing. There is no intimacy in our relationship which makes it very difficult for me to feel like anything other than a bud. I have even asked him before if he is gay. I just don't understand how nothing I do works and never really has. If his porn addiction is really over, how does he have zero sex drive for me? Just wondering if anyone else has been through this and what did you do about it?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 5, 2016 22:53:45 GMT -7
Hi hopelesslyhurting, Glad to see you back on the forum. So sorry to hear the pain and confusion you are experiencing in your marriage. Do you have anyone in your life that you can talk with truthfully about the issues you are facing in your marriage? A safe person who you can trust? Dealing with a spouse who is a sex addict can be very isolating.
How's your search for a support group or counselor going? You mentioned there were no support groups in your area - have you thought about seeing a counselor instead? One that specializes in sex addiction would be ideal; however, a counselor with experience working with and guiding spouses of addicts in general, codependency, and setting boundaries could be helpful as well. Addiction is addiction whether it be drugs, alcohol, sex, gambling, etc. Patterns and behaviors of individuals who are addicted are quite similar regardless of the thing the person is addicted to. A counselor is great for talking things through, helping you to see things more clearly, validating your very real emotions, encouraging you to believe the truth about yourself rather than the lies perpetuated when a husband is consumed with porn or other forms of acting out.
I would advise you to not trust your husbands word that he has been sober for a year. Addicts are fabulous at hiding their addiction from everyone around them. There are numerous other ways to act out and/or access porn that don't involve a computer or iPhone (I won't name them here), and addiction isn't something one can just "quit". Breaking free from addiction requires immense effort, focus, perseverance, and much action. Actions like actively seeking help, finding accountability partners, pursuing Christ through the Bible, the church, fellowship, and worship. Identifying triggers that start the addiction cycle and actively ridding one's life of those triggers, making amends to those who have been hurt by the addicted person, etc. These are just a few of the things that a person struggling with addiction has to pursue in order to break free. They don't just stop. They can't, because they are powerless to do so on their own.
Have you seen any of these actions by your husband? If no, I encourage you to upset the status quo in order for anything to begin to change. You will need help doing that though- that's where a counselor comes in, helping you figure out your boundaries, and appropriate consequences when your husband doesn't respect your boundary. When you start standing up for what you need in the relationship - things will begin to change - because you will be changing. And things will likely get much worse before there is any chance of things getting better. There is hope for your husband and your marriage, but only if your husband comes to a place where he is desperate to pursue Christ, and freedom from addiction. I will continue praying for you both.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 6, 2016 6:42:35 GMT -7
I agree with hope. Do not trust what your husband says unless it is shown by positive actions. Addicts are very adept at hiding, covering up, and lying...I know because I was one and then married one. She is also right that things will probably get worse before there can be a hope of things getting better. Seek out help with counseling. Find someone you can trust to talk to and can be a sounding board for you to bounce your thoughts and feelings off of.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 29, 2016 17:18:30 GMT -7
How are you doing helplesslyhurting? Just checking on you. Let us know how you are and how we can pray for you.
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