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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2016 10:13:14 GMT -7
Hi everyone -
New here and recently discovered my husband is a sex addict and is currently started a recovery process.Started at around 9 years of age and has increased ever since with the last two years being better but we both did not know he was an addict.His program is the Conquer series at our church Accountability group,he starts this soon Reading the give biblical homework through his course Journaling Praying Etc... My questions are targeted more for a long the lines of his thoughts and why he is having certain ones.
He has stopped all masterbation and stimulation that goes along with it but he is experiencing anxiety when we go places in fear of seeing any and all women,is this normal? He is having negative thoughts about me and how I look and dwelling on them,normal? He is so consumed with his old behavior and what he did wrong that he wants to talk to me and everyone else constantly about it over and over with details about these events,which I have asked him to stop...normal?
Then finally he is in week two of his program and is told to quote " turn the lights on,look into each others eyes and talk". I know this is regarding intimacy between us but I have also read that he should abstain from sexual activities for a time.After sex he tends to be cold and distant and then has a rush of depression and anxiety for days.....normal?
Thanks for any and all replies.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2016 12:02:24 GMT -7
Welcome to the forums. I will direct some of the men to this post since they can better answer your questions from a male point of view. I encourage you to post in any of the forums. I will be praying for you and your husband.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2016 13:18:13 GMT -7
Hi everyone - New here and recently discovered my husband is a sex addict and is currently started a recovery process.Started at around 9 years of age and has increased ever since with the last two years being better but we both did not know he was an addict.His program is the Conquer series at our church Accountability group,he starts this soon Reading the give biblical homework through his course Journaling Praying Etc... My questions are targeted more for a long the lines of his thoughts and why he is having certain ones. He has stopped all masterbation and stimulation that goes along with it but he is experiencing anxiety when we go places in fear of seeing any and all women,is this normal? He is having negative thoughts about me and how I look and dwelling on them,normal? He is so consumed with his old behavior and what he did wrong that he wants to talk to me and everyone else constantly about it over and over with details about these events,which I have asked him to stop...normal? Then finally he is in week two of his program and is told to quote " turn the lights on,look into each others eyes and talk". I know this is regarding intimacy between us but I have also read that he should abstain from sexual activities for a time.After sex he tends to be cold and distant and then has a rush of depression and anxiety for days.....normal? Thanks for any and all replies. Greetings Mmichelle, my codename is Jonathan and I'm one of the moderators of this forum. I am also an addict who is trying to recover from this addiction as a single man. I will try to answer the first two questions but the third question is going to be difficult but I do have a biblical perspective on it. Perhaps Kevin can offer his perspective on marriage intimacy. 1) I do believe in taking precautions whenever you go out. Right now his emotions are raw and while he wants to be pure for you his mind has been trained for years to notice that female and "take in the scenery" (lust after her). Controlling the mind is often difficult because most men get sexual stimulation from sight. I wouldn't make a big deal of his anxiety right now, but ask him how you can help him calm down some. My advice is to do a mental check of the places you need to go with your husband and discuss how he might react in those situations. If things are going to be difficult for him then perhaps avoid such places like a spa, public pool, beaches, co-ed gym. Or maybe go at a less than prime time. For me I avoid pools, beaches, underwear aisles and questionable stores. I go to the gym during off hours to avoid the female crowd. Spa's are out as well as massage parlors. You have to set boundaries and know what his trigger zones are. Ask him before you go out. 2) Him talking about what he's done isn't all that uncommon if it leads to repentance. If he is just bragging to his buddies then yeah this is abnormal for someone entering recovery. It's good to come clean and I believe he needs to confess all to the right people. You DO NOT need to know every dirty detail. Let his accountability partner take on that task. I would advise telling him that you are uncomfortable with him sharing his addiction so openly and perhaps you can discuss this area with his accountability partner. I don't want him to stop being open just needs to be appropriate and in the right setting. NOT EVERYONE can handle such truth. (Jack Nicoleson line - Few Good Men) Sorry couldn't resist! 3) I'm single so can't really go there, but the bible says to only abstain MUTUALLY for a time to devote oneself to prayer then come together so that you might not be tempted. So my advise it to have a MUTUAL agreement and then come together. The coldness and negative thoughts I don't know much about that and I can't for sure say why he feels this way. For me "acting out" is what brings on the negative feelings. But marriage intimacy is supposed to bring two together as one so if you two aren't getting closer afterwards then yes something might be off. .Hope this helps
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2016 15:48:13 GMT -7
Hi Michele, I also am addicted to sexual sin. I started as a young boy about 10, heavily involved in my teens but not so much when I got married at 19. During the first 20 years of marriage I occasionally watched porn and had several affairs. I became a Christian at 40 and was sober from sexual sin for 18 years. Looking back it seemed much more under control before I was a Christian then it has since I relapsed 3 years ago.
Forgive me if I'm wrong but your husband's behavior seems a little bizarre. My gut instinct says he is still heavily using in some shape or form. I talk a lot when I feel guilty and am hiding something. He has negative thoughts about your appearance because he needs new excitement to get aroused. Porn takes over from normal sexual relations with your wife and Erectile Dysfunction can become a problem during sex with the spouse. I believe his nervous need to talk all about it again comes from acting like he is clean when he is not. His response after sex is because his heart is hardened to intimacy not only with you but with God and people. He is running on dopamine when he has sex not intimacy and love. When it's over he goes into a bit of depression then within a day or 2 will be craving sex again for that dopamine fix.
I am sorry if this seems like all bad news but it's not if your hubby is really ready to do business. He needs a complete reset from all sexual sin and maybe even marital sex for awhile. If he is over 50 marital sex doesn't seem to affect the reset process like it does for younger men. I would suggest you find a good SA counselor (Christian if possible) to deal with unprocessed pain and shame. He needs filters on all his devices and must avoid as many triggers as possible. Again this will only work if he has hit bottom and cries out to God for help. Look around the forum for some of the videos about porn addiction such as the Great Porn Experiment on Ted Talks on YouTube. May the Lord give you strength as you support your husband in this.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 22, 2016 10:00:12 GMT -7
Thank you all so much!
He has been off porn for a little under a year but was not seeking God's help with this matter yet..not knowing he was an addict he tried to do it all by himself bad news right...
So now that we started a new church and it provided the conquer series he wanted to attend but by doing so he has unleashed all this other information about his activity.Instead of using porn or other things his brain forced him in a way to look at everyone and anything....neighbors,people at the grocery store,people on TV the list goes on and on.Then of course masterbating to these things. I don't mind him talking to me but it seems that everything in the sense is tainted,we can't go anywhere hardly and if we do and we get alone time we spend it discussing this issue about how he saw this girl here and this girl there.It's exhausting not to mention it's all very hurtful that he was just looking at anyone. I truly believe he is being honest about everything,he breaks down and feels awful about the things he has done.He has been so transparent to the point that he tells me about things before we were together,which I understand he needs to talk but agree he needs to tell these things to his accountability partners.He hasn't been established in a group yet. He is 31 and I am 28 been married 9 years and 4 kids.I know about the verse in 1 Corinthians and I believe this needs to be the course of action at least for a time and he says that he is fine with this but then went on to say that if we don't do anything that he is in fear the he might fall back into masterbation.I know it is God's loving power that will help him overcome.I'm starting the Betrayal and Beyond Series if there is anyone that can give advice on health boundaries in this I would greatly appreciate it?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 22, 2016 11:00:01 GMT -7
Michelle try posting about boundary help in the wives section. I would tell you to pray about it. You know your husband and you know what you can and can't handle. Start there. You will find that your boundary list will change depending on your relationship.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 22, 2016 16:46:28 GMT -7
Rule #1....Don't let him bully you into sex by saying if you don't have it he might masturbate. That is an old worn out trick of addicts. Be there for him if he is going to fully be there for you. Otherwise then no sex. Selfishness has NO place in the bedroom at all. Sorry if sounds harsh but I can no longer stand to hear that manipulation tactic being used. It sickens me to the core.
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Post by KevinesKay on Jan 24, 2016 21:35:25 GMT -7
Hi everyone - New here and recently discovered my husband is a sex addict and is currently started a recovery process.Started at around 9 years of age and has increased ever since with the last two years being better but we both did not know he was an addict.His program is the Conquer series at our church Accountability group,he starts this soon Reading the give biblical homework through his course Journaling Praying Etc... My questions are targeted more for a long the lines of his thoughts and why he is having certain ones. He has stopped all masterbation and stimulation that goes along with it but he is experiencing anxiety when we go places in fear of seeing any and all women,is this normal? He is having negative thoughts about me and how I look and dwelling on them,normal? He is so consumed with his old behavior and what he did wrong that he wants to talk to me and everyone else constantly about it over and over with details about these events,which I have asked him to stop...normal? Then finally he is in week two of his program and is told to quote " turn the lights on,look into each others eyes and talk". I know this is regarding intimacy between us but I have also read that he should abstain from sexual activities for a time.After sex he tends to be cold and distant and then has a rush of depression and anxiety for days.....normal? Thanks for any and all replies. Hi everyone. Hi Michelle. Welcome. First off, Let me address some of these questions. He has stopped all masterbation and stimulation that goes along with it but he is experiencing anxiety when we go places in fear of seeing any and all women,is this normal? Yes. But as an addict matures in his thinking, his spiritual life, and his boundaries, the obsession with temptation avoidance reduces. He is having negative thoughts about me and how I look and dwelling on them,normal? Yes. He is so consumed with his old behavior and what he did wrong that he wants to talk to me and everyone else constantly about it over and over with details about these events,which I have asked him to stop...normal? Yes. Secrecy fuels the addiction. So it's not unusual for an addict to pursue recovery by telling everyone and everything. This, unfortunately, is not always appropriate. I did it myself to give my recovery a boost. But I don't think it was an effective strategy. Not everyone can be trusted. Please note that these are just my opinions. Some other thoughts: Accountability groups can be hard to establish. For me, I was never able to establish that perfect set of 5 guys that would check up on me regularly and always be available and always have the right answers. For me, I had to modify this broken tool to something that worked better for me. I'm more careful of who I share my addiction with. And I don't have a lot of expectation in these men that I know. I would have to say that I have at least a dozen phone buddies between friends at BG, church, and friends that I talk to and pray with. And they know about my PA and my involvement with BG. And guess who knows more about PA and recovering from it. That would be myself. So instead of trying to draw strength from my phone buddies, who I consider to be the best accountability group that I've ever had, I look to them as instruments of the Lord to help draw me out of my social anorexia, to practice communal prayer, and to build friendships. Checking in with people on how my recovery from PA is going is not the priority. Besides, after an extended time of sobriety, avoiding P by itself gets to be a little boring. And accountability partners or phone buddies simply don't have all the magic answers or formulas that some PA could possibly desire for enlightenment. This is just a thought to help reset any loftly expectations. As far as the Conquer series, I might value a church offered course to help jumpstart a new direction, but it's not a permanent, longlasting plan for recovery in my experience. I need much, much more. I may not have all the answers, but I have a purposeful plan of daily action in my life. For me, it involves having good boundaries in place, and it involves practicing daily specific behaviors in my life to develop my relationship with God, others, and my wife and family. Blessings to both of you. I hope and pray that you'll both find your way through this. If you do, you'll share an intimacy that 9 out of 10 couples do not experience.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 25, 2016 11:00:18 GMT -7
Thank you,everyone for some much needed help during this period of time.Prayers go out to everyone. Blessings, Mmichelle
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Post by Deleted on Feb 27, 2016 5:27:03 GMT -7
Have things gotten any better for you two?
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Post by Ɖσмιиιc on Dec 31, 2021 6:15:15 GMT -7
Thank you,everyone for some much needed help during this period of time.Prayers go out to everyone. Blessings, Mmichelle Hi @mmichelle is there any updates on how your husband is doing? Do you think he can sign up for our forums?
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