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MY ALL-TIME FAVORITE LOVE AND FORGIVENESS STORIES: LUKE 15:11-32. The Story of the Loving Father
11 Then Jesus said, “A man had two sons.
12 The younger one told his father, ‘Father, give me my share of the estate.’ So the father divided his property between them.
13 A few days later, the younger son gathered everything he owned and traveled to a distant country. There he wasted it all on wild living. [xref-1]
14 After he had spent everything, a severe famine took place throughout that country, and he began to be in need.
15 So he went out to work for one of the citizens of that country, who sent him into his fields to feed pigs.
16 No one would give him anything, even though he would gladly have filled himself with the husks the pigs were eating.
17 notes “Then he came to his senses and said, ‘How many of my father’s hired men have more food than they can eat, and here I am starving to death!
18 I will get up, go to my father, and say to him, “Father, I have sinned against heaven and you.
19 I don’t deserve to be called your son anymore. Treat me like one of your hired men.”’
20 “So he got up and went to his father. While he was still far away, his father saw him and was filled with compassion. He ran to his son, threw his arms around him, and kissed him affectionately. xref-3
21 Then his son told him, ‘Father, I have sinned against heaven and you. I don’t deserve to be called your son anymore.’
22 But the father told his servants, ‘Hurry! Bring out the best robe and put it on him, and put a ring on his finger and sandals on his feet.
23 Bring the fattened calf and kill it, and let’s eat and celebrate!
24 Because my son was dead and has come back to life. He was lost and has been found.’ And they began to celebrate.
25 “Now the father’s older son was in the field. As he was coming back to the house, he heard music and dancing.
26 So he called to one of the servants and asked what was happening.
27 The servant told him, ‘Your brother has come home, and your father has killed the fattened calf because he got him back safely.’
28 “Then the older son became angry and wouldn’t go into the house. So his father came out and began to plead with him.
29 But he answered his father, ‘Listen! All these years I’ve worked like a slave for you. I’ve never disobeyed a command of yours. Yet you’ve never given me so much as a young goat for a festival so I could celebrate with my friends.
30 But this son of yours spent your money on prostitutes, and when he came back, you killed the fattened calf for him!’
31 “His father told him, ‘My child, you are always with me, and everything I have is yours.
32 But we had to celebrate and rejoice, because this brother of yours was dead and has come back to life. He was lost and has been found.’”
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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2016 12:00:03 GMT -7
Psalm 63 O God, you are my God; earnestly I seek you; my soul thirsts for you; my flesh faints for you, as in a dry and weary land where there is no water. 2 So I have looked upon you in the sanctuary, beholding your power and glory. 3 Because your steadfast love is better than life, my lips will praise you. 4 So I will bless you as long as I live; in your name I will lift up my hands.
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Post by teetop on Jun 4, 2016 15:49:38 GMT -7
We speak of Love and forgiveness and for me there is much that needs to be done. At the end of most AA meetings we close with the Lord's Prayer. Mat 6:9 "Pray, then, in this way: 'Our Father who is in heaven, Hallowed be Your name. Mat 6:10 'Your kingdom come. Your will be done, On earth as it is in heaven. Mat 6:11 'Give us this day our daily bread. Mat 6:12 'And forgive us our debts, as we also have forgiven our debtors. Mat 6:13 'And do not lead us into temptation, but deliver us from evil. [For Yours is the kingdom and the power and the glory forever. Amen.]' (NASV) Though few notice the next two verses, which caries a warning: Mat 6:14 "For if you forgive others for their transgressions, your heavenly Father will also forgive you. Mat 6:15 "But if you do not forgive others, then your Father will not forgive your transgressions. (NASV) In this day and age, and in this Country, it is not easy to find true Love and Forgiveness. And as for me, I've come to the conclusion that giving true Love is not natural for me. I find my actions always have some underlying motive and that includes forgiveness on my part. Virgil
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Post by teetop on Jun 8, 2016 12:47:07 GMT -7
Luke 7 44 Then he turned toward the woman and said to Simon, “Do you see this woman? I came into your house. You did not give me any water for my feet, but she wet my feet with her tears and wiped them with her hair. 45 You did not give me a kiss, but this woman, from the time I entered, has not stopped kissing my feet. 46 You did not put oil on my head, but she has poured perfume on my feet. 47 Therefore, I tell you, her many sins have been forgiven—as her great love has shown. But whoever has been forgiven little loves little.” 48 Then Jesus said to her, “Your sins are forgiven.” I thought this scripture was appropriate since it deals with both love and Forgiveness. To me this tells me to take heart, because my sins are numerous and great, I have more reason to love Christ for saving me, forgiving me. With my imperfect love He is able to take my heart and mold it to make it a fitting vessel to house His perfect love which I am then able to feel, use and give to myself and others. see similar incidences : Mat_26:6-13; Mar_14:3-9; Joh_12:1-11) This story really starts around Luke 7:36 and ends at Luke 7:50. Each person within the story has something to say, if we(I) will only listen. Who are the characters in this story and the contrast Jesus draws our attention to? What about their motives for their actions?
Luke 7:36 A similar incident occurred later in Jesus' ministry (see Mat_26:6-13; Mar_14:3-9; Joh_12:1-11). Luke 7:38 Although the woman was not an invited guest, she entered the house anyway and knelt behind Jesus at his feet. In Jesus' day, it was customary to recline while eating. Dinner guests would lie on couches with their heads near the table, propping themselves up on one elbow and stretching their feet out behind them. The woman could easily anoint Jesus' feet without approaching the table. Luke 7:44 Again Luke contrasts the Pharisees with sinners—and again the sinners come out ahead. Simon had committed several social errors in neglecting to wash Jesus' feet (a courtesy extended to guests because sandaled feet got very dirty), anoint his head with oil, and offer him the kiss of greeting. Did Simon perhaps feel that he was too good for Jesus? Was he trying to give Jesus a subtle put-down? Whatever the case, the contrast is vivid. The sinful woman lavished tears, expensive perfume, and kisses on her Savior. In this story it is the grateful immoral woman, and not the religious leader, whose sins were forgiven. Although God's grace through faith is what saves us, and not acts of love or generosity, this woman's act demonstrated her true faith, and Jesus honored her. Luke 7:47 Overflowing love is the natural response to forgiveness and the appropriate consequence of faith. But only those who realize the depth of their sin can appreciate the complete forgiveness that God offers them. Jesus has rescued all of his followers, whether they were once extremely wicked or conventionally good, from eternal death. Do you appreciate the wideness of God's mercy? Are you grateful for his forgiveness? Luke 7:49-50 The Pharisees believed that only God could forgive sins, so they wondered why this man, Jesus, was saying that the woman's sins were forgiven. They did not grasp the fact that Jesus was indeed God. (See also Luk_5:17-26 and notes there.)(Notes from the: Life Application Study Bible, E-sword ED) Two penitent women anointing Jesus: 12. A Pharisee in whose house a penitent woman anointed the head and feet of Jesus (Luk_7:40). A.D. 28. 13. A resident at Bethany, distinguished as “the leper,” not from his having leprosy at the time when he is mentioned, but at some previous period. It is not improbable that he had been miraculously cured by Jesus. In his house Mary anointed Jesus preparatory to his death and burial (Mat_26:6, etc.; Mar_14:3, etc.; Joh_12:1, etc.). A.D.(James Strong && John McClintocks Cyclopedia, E-sword ED) A side-note or observation, try as I might, I've not been able to find this type of reaction towards Jesus by men in our scriptures nor any commentaries I have access to.
The first person we see is Jesus Christ. A sinner Wyc., a sinneress. Her presence there is explained by the Oriental custom of strangers passing in and out of a house during a meal to see and converse with the guests. Trench cites a description of a dinner at a consul's house in Damietta. “Many came in and took their places on the side-seats, uninvited and yet unchallenged. They spoke to those at table on business or the news of the day, and our host spoke freely to them” (“Parables”). Bernard beautifully says: “Thanks to thee, most blessed sinner: thou hast shown the world a safe enough place for sinners - the feet of Jesus, which spurn none, reject none, repel none, and receive and admit all. Where alone the Pharisee vents not his haughtiness, there surely the Ethiopian changes his skin, and the leopard his spots” (cit. by Trench, “Parables”).(Vincent's Word Studies, E-sword ED.).
He was invited to the pharisee's(Simon) home.(Luke 7:36) for a meal.) My feelings, that there is no way I'm like this pharisee. Yet I know that is not true, for I am probably more like him than of the women. Strange that the list of sins for the women are not listed. Yet the feelings are, she was a great sinner. I would have to ask though; to what sins would you put down for her if you would list them? The next one is the Pharisee; Simon. It is so easy to look down my nose at Simon and even find some hidden motive for his actions. But assumptions most often are way off the mark. My motives would be very selfish and self-centered to say the least, with pride at the top of the list. And the fear that would be present could not even be measured. And then the unnamed women. How many of us truly have grief over our sin's, as we see this women reveals by her actions. I think this woman felt or sensed the great love and forgiveness of Christ before He even said she was forgiven. What do we feel or sense when we hear a sermon that melts our hearts, and we feel broken. .
So much could be written and so much learned from this study, but I shall just add one other link. Free Computer Program: E-sword. And another site for Free Add on Modules beyond your wildest dreams. Hundreds of free E-sword Modules.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 11, 2016 3:37:11 GMT -7
Hi teetop. Welcome here to BG. I see you have been very active but we don't know much about you. Could you introduce yourself and tell us a bit of your story and why you are here?
Thanks
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Post by teetop on Jul 12, 2016 5:33:23 GMT -7
How many times have we attempted to get forgiveness for our many sin's? How many times have we done the same sin over and over?
Scripture has something to say about it. Most of us, that is if we've spent anytime around the Bible or grew up going to Sunday School, remember hearing about ; 1 John 1:9 1Jn 1:9 If we confess our sins, He is faithful and righteous to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. (NASB)
Now we take one of the best noted confessions in scripture; David's. Psalms 51
Psa 51:1 For the choir director. A Psalm of David, when Nathan the prophet came to him, after he had gone in to Bathsheba. Be gracious to me, O God, according to Your lovingkindness; According to the greatness of Your compassion blot out my transgressions. Psa 51:2 Wash me thoroughly from my iniquity And cleanse me from my sin. Psa 51:3 For I know my transgressions, And my sin is ever before me. Psa 51:4 Against You, You only, I have sinned And done what is evil in Your sight, So that You are justified when You speak And blameless when You judge. Psa 51:5 Behold, I was brought forth in iniquity, And in sin my mother conceived me. Psa 51:6 Behold, You desire truth in the innermost being, And in the hidden part You will make me know wisdom. Psa 51:7 Purify me with hyssop, and I shall be clean; Wash me, and I shall be whiter than snow. Psa 51:8 Make me to hear joy and gladness, Let the bones which You have broken rejoice. Psa 51:9 Hide Your face from my sins And blot out all my iniquities. Psa 51:10 Create in me a clean heart, O God, And renew a steadfast spirit within me. Psa 51:11 Do not cast me away from Your presence And do not take Your Holy Spirit from me. Psa 51:12 Restore to me the joy of Your salvation And sustain me with a willing spirit. Psa 51:13 Then I will teach transgressors Your ways, And sinners will be converted to You. Psa 51:14 Deliver me from bloodguiltiness, O God, the God of my salvation; Then my tongue will joyfully sing of Your righteousness. Psa 51:15 O Lord, open my lips, That my mouth may declare Your praise. Psa 51:16 For You do not delight in sacrifice, otherwise I would give it; You are not pleased with burnt offering. Psa 51:17 The sacrifices of God are a broken spirit; A broken and a contrite heart, O God, You will not despise. Psa 51:18 By Your favor do good to Zion; Build the walls of Jerusalem. Psa 51:19 Then You will delight in righteous sacrifices, In burnt offering and whole burnt offering; Then young bulls will be offered on Your altar. (NASB)
Mat_6:14 "For if you forgive others for their transgressions, your heavenly Father will also forgive you. Mat_6:15 "But if you do not forgive others, then your Father will not forgive your transgressions. (NASB)
Mat 18:21 Then Peter came and said to Him, "Lord, how often shall my brother sin against me and I forgive him? Up to seven times?" Mat 18:22 Jesus *said to him, "I do not say to you, up to seven times, but up to seventy times seven. Mat 18:23 "For this reason the kingdom of heaven may be compared to a king who wished to settle accounts with his slaves. Mat 18:24 "When he had begun to settle them, one who owed him ten thousand talents was brought to him. Mat 18:25 "But since he did not have the means to repay, his lord commanded him to be sold, along with his wife and children and all that he had, and repayment to be made. Mat 18:26 "So the slave fell to the ground and prostrated himself before him, saying, 'Have patience with me and I will repay you everything.' Mat 18:27 "And the lord of that slave felt compassion and released him and forgave him the debt. Mat 18:28 "But that slave went out and found one of his fellow slaves who owed him a hundred denarii; and he seized him and began to choke him, saying, 'Pay back what you owe.' Mat 18:29 "So his fellow slave fell to the ground and began to plead with him, saying, 'Have patience with me and I will repay you.' Mat 18:30 "But he was unwilling and went and threw him in prison until he should pay back what was owed. Mat 18:31 "So when his fellow slaves saw what had happened, they were deeply grieved and came and reported to their lord all that had happened. Mat 18:32 "Then summoning him, his lord *said to him, 'You wicked slave, I forgave you all that debt because you pleaded with me. Mat 18:33 'Should you not also have had mercy on your fellow slave, in the same way that I had mercy on you?' Mat 18:34 "And his lord, moved with anger, handed him over to the torturers until he should repay all that was owed him. Mat 18:35 "My heavenly Father will also do the same to you, if each of you does not forgive his brother from your heart." (NASB).
If we take the time to study God's word, we find that the written account is not specific about the transgression. Only about Who the transgression was against.
I will say, God forgives our sin's at the same time I think David shared something else about his sin's when he said they/it was always before him. The aftermath/consequences that plagued his family from that point on. And our sin's always have consequences we don't expect. And in David's case, a very broken family plus the loss of his son from Bathsheba.
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Post by teetop on Sept 22, 2016 16:47:57 GMT -7
MARRIAGE, LOVE & FORGIVENESS!
Which comes first? Actually none of the above comes first. Love of another person is foreign to our base nature. (Care to debate it?)
We are born with a fallen nature. (Rom 3:10 as it is written, "THERE IS NONE RIGHTEOUS, NOT EVEN ONE;[Psa 14:1-3; Psa 53:1-3] Rom 3:11 THERE IS NONE WHO UNDERSTANDS, THERE IS NONE WHO SEEKS FOR GOD; Rom 3:12 ALL HAVE TURNED ASIDE, TOGETHER THEY HAVE BECOME USELESS; THERE IS NONE WHO DOES GOOD, THERE IS NOT EVEN ONE." Rom 3:13 "THEIR THROAT IS AN OPEN GRAVE, WITH THEIR TONGUES THEY KEEP DECEIVING," "THE POISON OF ASPS IS UNDER THEIR LIPS"; Rom 3:14 "WHOSE MOUTH IS FULL OF CURSING AND BITTERNESS"; Rom 3:15 "THEIR FEET ARE SWIFT TO SHED BLOOD, Rom 3:16 DESTRUCTION AND MISERY ARE IN THEIR PATHS, Rom 3:17 AND THE PATH OF PEACE THEY HAVE NOT KNOWN." Rom 3:18 "THERE IS NO FEAR OF GOD BEFORE THEIR EYES.") And it does not matter whether you are male or female. Selfishness or being self-centered fits the bill if we are honest with ourselves. What were you like growing up?
Let's see: I was born 5 months after WW2 started with jaundice and Rheumatic fever. Then to top that off, my mother didn't know she had to punch her own holes in the nipples of the bottles, so I was starving to death. And the last was to pin my we-we to the diaper, all before I was six months old. And you think you've got problems!
Then at age six, Easter, April 6th, 1947, my first escape into masturbation, and sex with an 18 year old girl from school. And my life has never been the same since. Lust drove me from that day forward along with MB or any sexual partner I could get my hands on. The greatest problems I kept running into was my shame, regret and a desire to stop the driving force, yet finding I was helpless against the cravings and desires of my flesh and mind. The lying, denials, and victims just kept piling up day in and day out. And after getting married, getting my wife to join me in some of my escapades into swapping partners. The more I wanted to stop the stronger the lust and desires seemed to drive me.
Up until my last trip into sobriety was I able to see what was driving me and that true love was a foreign concept to me. Marriage vows didn't mean anything till this last marriage. Even though it was more a marriage of convenience than out of love. I'll have to continue more later to complete my train of thought. Virgil
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Post by Deleted on Sept 23, 2016 7:09:59 GMT -7
Tee, thank you for opening up to us. It is never easy to talk about who and what we were in the past but it is necessary for healing and understanding. We must remember that when we accepted Christ we became new creatures.
2 Cor 5 17 Therefore, if anyone is in Christ, he is a new creation. The old has passed away; behold, the new has come. 18 All this is from God, who through Christ reconciled us to himself and gave us the ministry of reconciliation; 19 that is, in Christ God was reconciling[c] the world to himself, not counting their trespasses against them, and entrusting to us the message of reconciliation. 20 Therefore, we are ambassadors for Christ, God making his appeal through us. We implore you on behalf of Christ, be reconciled to God. 21 For our sake he made him to be sin who knew no sin, so that in him we might become the righteousness of God.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 25, 2016 7:30:29 GMT -7
I thought this was appropriate. JD is a Pastor I listen to on a regular basis. Here he is speaking on 2 Corinthians and love of self. Love of self can be a good thing and if taken too far can be twisted into a bad thing ie selfishness. He also talks about speaking truth to those we love and how it can be taken wrong.
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Post by teetop on Nov 8, 2016 20:35:32 GMT -7
This I think came through Bunnies Word about 5 years ago or longer. I found it on an old Back-up flash drive from another older computer. Enjoy:
Survival kit for every day living ---------------------------------
Items Needed:
Toothpick Rubber Band Band Aid Pencil Eraser Chewing Gum Mint Candy Kiss Tea Bag
Why???
1) TOOTHPICK - to remind you to pick out the good qualities in others. 2) RUBBER BAND - to remind you to be flexible, things might not always go the way you want, but it will work out. 3) BAND AID - to remind you to heal hurt feelings, yours or someone Else's. 4) PENCIL - to remind you to list your blessings everyday. 5) ERASER - To remind you that everyone makes mistakes, and its OK. 6) CHEWING GUM - to remind you to stick with it and you can accomplish anything. 7) MINT - to remind you that you are worth a mint. 8) CANDY KISS - to remind you that everyone needs a kiss or a hug everyday. 9) TEA BAG - to remind you to relax daily and reflect on all the positive things in your life. A verbal wound is as bad as a physical one.
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Post by ladystrong on Feb 10, 2017 12:32:51 GMT -7
That video from Dove featuring Patrick Doyle was so encouraging to me. I'm checking out their other videos. They help me in the healing process.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 10, 2017 18:53:44 GMT -7
Patrick Doyle is amazing. You will find his videos posted throughout the forums. I love listening to him. I have threatened to make a Patrick Doyle fan thread. Lol
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Post by teetop on Feb 11, 2017 18:13:45 GMT -7
Though I find it hard at times to even attempt forgiveness, I was raised to do just that.
With females; easy. (Always ulterior motives) With males, not so much. Family most of the time; easy.
But on this site, I would suggest David Pawson's: .What's the Difference?.
.Its not fair - Forgiveness and mercy.
Now personally when it comes to forgiveness; I find myself at war. Like Paul: Rom 7:15 For what I am doing, I do not understand; for I am not practicing what I would like to do, but I am doing the very thing I hate. Rom 7:16 But if I do the very thing I do not want to do, I agree with the Law, confessing that the Law is good. Rom 7:17 So now, no longer am I the one doing it, but sin which dwells in me. Rom 7:18 For I know that nothing good dwells in me, that is, in my flesh; for the willing is present in me, but the doing of the good is not. Rom 7:19 For the good that I want, I do not do, but I practice the very evil that I do not want. Rom 7:20 But if I am doing the very thing I do not want, I am no longer the one doing it, but sin which dwells in me. Rom 7:21 I find then the principle that evil is present in me, the one who wants to do good. Rom 7:22 For I joyfully concur with the law of God in the inner man, Rom 7:23 but I see a different law in the members of my body, waging war against the law of my mind and making me a prisoner of the law of sin which is in my members. Rom 7:24 Wretched man that I am! Who will set me free from the body of this death? Rom 7:25 Thanks be to God through Jesus Christ our Lord! So then, on the one hand, I myself with my mind am serving the law of God, but on the other, with my flesh the law of sin. Rom 8:1 Therefore there is now no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus. Rom 8:2 For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus has set you free from the law of sin and of death. Rom 8:3 For what the Law could not do, weak as it was through the flesh, God did: sending His own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh and as an offering for sin, He condemned sin in the flesh, Rom 8:4 so that the requirement of the Law might be fulfilled in us, who do not walk according to the flesh but according to the Spirit. Rom 8:5 For those who are according to the flesh set their minds on the things of the flesh, but those who are according to the Spirit, the things of the Spirit. Rom 8:6 For the mind set on the flesh is death, but the mind set on the Spirit is life and peace, Rom 8:7 because the mind set on the flesh is hostile toward God; for it does not subject itself to the law of God, for it is not even able to do so, Rom 8:8 and those who are in the flesh cannot please God.
But I will draw our attention to the fact the context starts earlier in Romans. Rom 7:1 Or do you not know, brethren (for I am speaking to those who know the law), that the law has jurisdiction over a person as long as he lives? Rom 7:2 For the married woman is bound by law to her husband while he is living; but if her husband dies, she is released from the law concerning the husband. Rom 7:3 So then, if while her husband is living she is joined to another man, she shall be called an adulteress; but if her husband dies, she is free from the law, so that she is not an adulteress though she is joined to another man. Rom 7:4 Therefore, my brethren, you also were made to die to the Law through the body of Christ, so that you might be joined to another, to Him who was raised from the dead, in order that we might bear fruit for God. Rom 7:5 For while we were in the flesh, the sinful passions, which were aroused by the Law, were at work in the members of our body to bear fruit for death. Rom 7:6 But now we have been released from the Law, having died to that by which we were bound, so that we serve in newness of the Spirit and not in oldness of the letter. (NAS) (Now that I've reloaded my computer, I should be able to finish my thought's.) I was so excited to see Pawson's talk on the differences between men and women, as I ran into that about 40 years ago while being a senior Senator going to SWOCC. I see there are flags up about a new book, I'll have to scratch my head over. 2Ti 4:3 For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but wanting to have their ears tickled, they will accumulate for themselves teachers in accordance to their own desires, 2Ti 4:4 and will turn away their ears from the truth and will turn aside to myths. (NASV)
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Post by teetop on Oct 20, 2017 10:11:39 GMT -7
Hi teetop. Welcome here to BG. I see you have been very active but we don't know much about you. Could you introduce yourself and tell us a bit of your story and why you are here? Thanks Braveheart
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