Post by KevinesKay on Aug 20, 2015 21:27:42 GMT -7
I feel the need to share something on my heart.
My heart goes out to those struggling with PA and SA. I can relate. I've done everything that Josh Duggar has done. I remember when I was 16, I myself, took indecent liberties on a 12 year old girl. And I've committed many s*xual sins that I'm ashamed of.
So I have a deep sense of empathy for where Josh is. I see much more than a PA or SA. I see a 27 year old man that is watching his whole life fall apart. As a PA and SA myself, I feel that someone has to have some compassion, and that would be me.
To have given him such a hard time with what he did at 15... Well, I think this caused more harm than good. The victims now have to relive and rehash the trauma over and over again for a very long time. But it is very unfortunate that Josh still struggles with being s*xually stable to this very day. Again, my heart truly goes out to him. I can truly understand how he feels. And I wouldn't want to wish his situation on anyone.
As a member of Blazing Grace, I feel compelled to reach out to him and his family. Perhaps, he might accept help. All we can do is hope and pray.
But what made me MAD was the whole family protected Josh instead of having him go through the juvenile penal system. Don't you think if your victim and told on you and you went through the penal system, that might have woken you up to where your life was going? That perhaps you would've realized then that Porn was bad? I'm just being hypothetical here.
Also, what about the victims? I'll say it against, what about the victims? We are talking about girls who were toddlers?
He raped four of his sisters. And he got away with it.
Did you know the cop "who gave him a talking to" was later arrested on child porn charges?
That cop was mandated by LAW to turn Josh in.
It makes me mad he got away with it b/c he's from a well to do family. And I'll say it again and again, what about his victims? The family was more worried about protecting Josh, than their four precious daughters.
That's just MO, but there it is. I'm tired of watching pedophiles in general (and I don't mean you Kevin) get away with it more often than not b/c this country always surrounds the perp and doesn't protect the victim.
I also know that you have a kind sensitive spirit. You're a lot like hubby in that way.
I see a repentant heart who is doing his best to overcome your addiction like my hubby is. You've also got a very strong kind hearted wife who supports you as well so I think you'll overcome this and be victorious.
Also, that cop that talked to Josh had already been arrested for DL child P and he was arrested a 2nd time after he gave Josh a "stern warning" b/c that cop was a friend of the famous Duggars.
I knew years ago there was something wrong in the family. They remind me of the people who run Hephzibah House were I served as a stateside missionary. I had just rededicated my life to Christ and the Baptist church I went to was a regular one. Hephzibah House dressed and acted just like the Duggars: long hair on the girls, they can't wear pants or makeup, arranged marriages, and large families.
Now, I'm not against large families b/c I wanted a lot of kids myself, but God planned for me to have three. My husband also has five siblings, however, one is in Heaven. His brother died of malignant melanoma cancer at age 23.
The Duggars always say, "the LORD provided" however, Jim Bob's dad was wealthy and he was handed everything on a silver platter. They have a cell tower on their property. They own rental properties and car lots. When Josh married he was given a house for free and a job at the car lot.
I remember I was watching the show and Michelle said that if a Christian couple is having financial problems it's b/c they spend too much money. Oh well. It must be nice to have a multi millionaire Father in Law who handed you the keys to the kingdom when you got married.
I was really offended. My health problems were expensive and she was judging ME and she'd never been through what I have.
That's when I stopped watching the show. I did watch a few episodes b/c I liked the fact that they were fellow homeschoolers. However, that statement turned me off.
I just KNEW there was something wrong in that family. I could sense it. One of my spiritual gifts is discernment and I stopped watching the show years ago.
I think God exposed their sin just like he did King David. "Those who cover up their sin shall not prosper." They are a blot on Christian homeschoolers and there is no way they can redeem themselves in the eye of the public now.
I think it is really sad. And I feel for his sisters. I highly doubt they got the necessary counseling. The Duggars used their connections to cover up their son's sin to the determent of their precious daughters who were 8 and under. One was like 3 or 4.
I could never let cameras into my home like that as my children grow up. How would they even have time for them?
The whole situation is sad all around.
I have seen SO many victims shunned by the church and even their OWN families for coming forward with rape/molestation charges against men and sometimes even women in the Independent Fundamental Baptist Churches we used to go to. The victims are shunned and the congregation circles thw wagon around the perp and they are left alone. Those people also are a blot on Christianity.
I am sorry to hear about this. I was praying for the sake of his wife and children that things wouldn't get worse. Lust is such a nasty sin and the longer you are in bondage to it the worse it gets. It seems so harmless at first...gee it was just a bit of nudity...thing is that to get the same titillating effect you have to do or see progressively harder stuff.
My heart goes out to all involved. It sounds like Josh maybe starting to admit to his sins and unfortunately for him it will get worse before he is able to see the light at the end of the tunnel. His wife and kids are going through this hell with him even though she left him. I pray it doesn't get worse that this is the end of the confessions to be made.
Last Edit: Sept 28, 2015 9:38:45 GMT -7 by Deleted
Oh that is terrible but most if not all SO's go through that stage of blaming themselves. It can be especially difficult if the addict has blamed them for their sins. Mine did that with me. I pray she is getting good Godly counseling and that she realizes soon that she isn't to blame. I feel for her and wish I could give her a hug. I know how tough this stage is.
Sigh...well, here's another one that's local. My hubby brought home our local newspaper and in it was a story of a founding member of a church we tried and one that the kids were involved in the youth group for a few months. They even did a lockin at the church.
He had solicited and undercover cop/prostitute and was arrested.
I was talking to my hubby yesterday about the reason why I didn't let my children go to church until they got older. I just don't trust strangers with my kids.
You shouldn't trust strangers with your kids. When we were growing up we stayed with our parents during church services. Our classes were just that and held in school with a teacher. We didn't have overnight stays....why are those the norm now? It just seems weird to me.
I have been at a church that incorporated the children's sermon in with the adult service. It worked very well. The children where called to the front and where given a short lesson at their level and then where sent back to sit with their families.
I'd like to try the church again where we were going to a Cel Recovery meeting until my heath went south.
I have a few links on this section of documents sexual abuse in both the IFB and the SBC (and I'm picking on my own denomination). I now consider myself non denominational, but that's just me. I don't like to be put in a box. I'm just a Christian who let's God speak through his Word via the Holy Spirit.
I want to go to church, but the insomnia is STILL bad. I just don't have a whole lotta energy yet.
One of my docs said by the holidays, but I should start to feel like myself. I hope so!
I will be praying for you to recover more quickly then the doctors predict.
I too belong to the Christian church. Yes I have a certain church I go to but my beliefs don't always line up with them. They believe that women can't lead any part of the service, worship or bible study. Only the men can. I believe that as long as the woman is under the leadership of the pastor, she can lead worship or bible study or prayer. They don't have musical instruments because it doesn't mention the New Testament church as having them....I believe that as long as it is used to worship God, there shouldn't be a problem.