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Post by Deleted on May 18, 2011 15:37:17 GMT -7
Well, I often check to see if there has been any more porn usage on the computer but am finding lately that all history is deleted. I know that my husband tends to go in cycles, uses for a while then goes a long time without using, but I cant tell which is which. He is distant most of the time and continues to complain about his unhappiness in life in general. He can be attentive to me but I feel like he is just slipping further and further from me. He seems to feel that he does not want to carry a cross for the Lord and does not want to give up what he wants in life to follow and serve God. He wants what he wants and is bitter because he does not have it. I am sure that he blames me for some of that. He seems unhappy about everything and barely communicates with me. I try so hard to be kind and serving and I am not enough. I dont know if he is using at this time and dont know any other way to check history on his computer. Maybe it just doesnt matter.
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Post by Deleted on May 19, 2011 3:12:43 GMT -7
[user=65523]claire[/user] wrote:
Do you think he'd be willing to talk with a perfect stranger like me? I know one thing. We can't go it alone and maybe if he could find some friends who have walked to road and battle their addictions daily then he could begin to walk through it. The other thing is a John Eldredge principle. He needs a real battle to fight and he needs brothers to walk into that battle with him.
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Post by Deleted on May 19, 2011 3:30:04 GMT -7
Hi Claire,
If you have not already read Mike's excellent new articles, there are links to all of them here. www.blazinggrace.org/forums/view_topic.php?id=2084&forum_id=21&jump_to=17422#p17422
Can you tell if the browser is set to delete history after each session? If so, you could set it differently, such as 30 days. As you know, of course, the real problem is that he does not agree that his behavior is sin. I suggest reading James 4, and if your husband will do so, too, that would be great. I pray that God will work in his heart through His living and active Word.
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Post by Deleted on May 19, 2011 4:38:46 GMT -7
Claire,
A couple of things.
You write, "I try so hard to be kind and serving and I am not enough." I think it's incredibly important to be gentle with yourself and to step away from taking responsibility for his addiction. I was an addict ore developing addictive behaviors of shame and secrecy and isolation for 20 years before getting married and for as many years of marriage. Had my marriage ended, I would have carried those behaviors on into my later life. Nothing my wife could have been or done would have changed that.
The problem is not that my wife isn't enough; it's my deeply-held fear that I am not enough.
Be gentle with yourself.
Why is the history empty? It's vaguely possible that your browser preferences have been set by accident to clear the history after every session, but of course, it's more likely that he's hiding something. If he's in recovery and is serious about that, then he should be open to a conversation expressing your concern, and he should be willing to commit to making sure the history is intact, and to any other monitoring software you might ask him to install.
You're right, though, that no amount of monitoring by you can make him become ready to surrender and to become a new human being. That has to arise from inside himself. To monitor him in order to help keep you and any children safe is completely appropriate; to monitor him out of a need to control his behavior when he can't control it himself is natural, but I think it will keep you tangled in his problem and will not bring you peace and joy. At least, all of that is what I think I learn from listening to other partners of addicts, who are the only ones who know.
You say maybe it doesn't matter, and there's a way in which I'm inclined to agree with you. If he's slipping further and further away - probably further and further away from himself as well as further and further away from you - then in a way, that's the real problem. What he is running to when hiding matters - distant and impersonal porn, cyber-affairs, and physical affairs that bring you disease are pretty different things - but the emptiness remains a huge issue whatever his drug of choice may be.
I guess that's what I find so striking and sad about your post. You title it, "Always an empty history," but maybe the deep problem can be said in fewer words, "Always empty." That's life for addicts, and it's a life we bring to those around us.
Whether or not he finds real fulfillment, may you find it. You can't fill his emptiness, but you can move to find your own fulfillment.
Just how it seems to a stranger n the other side of the fence.
Tim M.
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Post by Deleted on May 19, 2011 5:53:29 GMT -7
Claire
It definitely does matter. I'm sorry to hear you can't have an open accountability with your husband - like covenant eyes - or a similar program.
I think there is a way to find out about usage, even if cookies are deleted. I think a data file that you can't delete will have information about usage. Also, a stack dump file will give information, unless that has been deleted.
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Post by Deleted on May 19, 2011 7:36:12 GMT -7
And for wives of sex addicts......all we have is an empty history. The lives we thought we were living were an illusion. My entire life has been a lie.
That's a terrible realization, but it certainly fits with "always an empty history."
In some ways, it's freeing as well. Once you realize that your entire life has been a lie, it's easier to let go.......because you're letting go of the lie, mourning the "loss" of something that wasn't real.
Forward ho.
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Post by Deleted on May 19, 2011 8:32:30 GMT -7
Hi DW,
In what I am about to write, I am not seeking to make light of your perspective, but to shift it to a more realistic point that may help you regain a healthy perspective.
You have not known your husband all of your life, therefore not all of your life could have been a lie, at least as far as the impact that SA has had on it. Was your childhood a lie? Has your motherhood been a lie? Has your career been a lie? It seems to me that you have many areas of your life which need to be detangled from the lie of your marriage, so you can begin to treasure them again. Perhaps, as that occurs, you will also see that your faith has not been a lie either.
I would also note that it is a tremendous blessing that you have the fiscal wherewithall to escape your situation. I can't tell you how many women stay because they are so financially dependent, and have no family or friends that are willing or able to help them get on their feet.
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Post by Deleted on May 19, 2011 8:35:32 GMT -7
You're right, Truthseeker. He has poisoned my life. I need to get rid of the poison, then maybe the truth will be more evident.
Thanks.
But I would add the following: I am a mother, that is true. The lie was that the children grew up in an intact family where the father was "present." He wasn't. I often felt like a single parent, and I was. I think it would have been easier on all of us to realize that he was only a sperm donor who happened to reside in the house. That would have saved the kids from a lot of disappointments........me too.
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