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Post by Deleted on Feb 22, 2009 2:57:59 GMT -7
Good morning, I'm very new to this so am not sure how candid and frank to be, or should be. However, the struggle I have with masturbation is mostly at night while I'm sleeping. I don't know what causes or "triggers" it. But it usually happens while I'm sleeping. Over the past couple years of this battle I've been able to not participate with it to carry it out to ejaculation, (there are times that does happen though). I've gone through everything in my mind to "figure out" what's the deal!?!:?At this point I have no revelation or understanding other than to just press into God and receive His mercy and forgiveness each time, which at times is ya know, jeesh how many times will He forgive me and don't I have this conquered yet? I struggle with the "In Him we ARE MORE THAN CONQUERERS and the battle has already been won". Anyway, I wanted to share those things, maybe someone has some insight or revelation?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 22, 2009 8:37:51 GMT -7
Are you conscience (awake and knowing what you are doing) while you are masturbating? if you are than what I would suggest doing is change your sleeping habits, if you try and fall asleep when you are restless try exercising during the day or stay awake until you start to get tired so you can fall asleep easier. I can't say I have ever woke up masturbating or still wet from ejaculating, but I think your problem might have something to do with restlessness. After sex or self gratification the male body releases some hormones (sorry I can't remember the name) and they make you sleepy. Maybe your mind has fallen into a pattern of releasing those hormones before you fall asleep and now it believes that for you to fall asleep it has to release them.
Does this issue with masturbating happen every night or every once in awhile?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 22, 2009 13:30:19 GMT -7
I'm mostly asleep or have just been asleep for an hour or so. I'm not always aware, but usually become aware. I do work out daily and try to maintain a healthier eating regimen etc.. These occurrences don't happen every night but rather go in stages. I'll go for awhile and can sleep ok then other times I go through a stage of disturbances at night. I'm single, so part of my mindset has been "well, maybe my hormones of not having sex are just way out of control. It's not an excuse to do it but maybe subconsciously I'm trying to get my needs met, that's just it I can't figure it out. so I just keep pressing into the Lord and believing for His Grace and Mercy.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 23, 2009 11:25:30 GMT -7
hey freedom,
i won't jump in here about the particulars of the conversation that you are having with snowblind. i'm not a guy, so i have no idea what to say there.
however, something you mentioned here sticks out to me. the part about more than conquerors and the battle already won. when you accept christ as your savior, at that point the major battle is over. you are redeemed. purchased by the very blood of our savior. nothing and no one can every rip you from the hands of god. not even sin. see, as long as we are in these physical bodies, we are going to struggle with sin. i'm sure that every single christian in the world is battling at least one sin in their life. we always will be. whether it is sexual, greed, being judgmental, or whatever, i could go on and on. it is all sinful. of course, our understanding that we can never be perfect is no free ticket to run about sinning willy nilly, i mean every single sinful action that we do is placed on jesus when he was on the cross. we should never sin flippantly. the hugest price we could ever imagine has been paid for our transgressions.
i think the reason that this particular sin is so hard for us to free ourselves from is because of the shame it brings. it is very hard to admit that we struggle with it. thus, we tend to keep it a secret. not only that, but face it, sex feels good. when we climax, it releases loads of chemicals in our brains that change our mood. we have to remember that god created us as sexual beings and gave us the beautiful gift of sex for us to bond on a deeper level with our spouses. it is meant to be amazing, not shameful and self destructive.
well, i have rambled on long enough i guess. lol! anyway, take care. i am praying for ya!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 23, 2009 13:35:57 GMT -7
I appreciate your encouragement. It's so hard to keep a perspective sometimes that won't cloud your outlook on God's character and His goodness. But thank you for your input and insight. I really appreciate it.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 2, 2009 14:22:31 GMT -7
Hello freedom, please understand that depending on you age, you usually have so called "wet dreams." if you have stopped the habit of masturbating then your body will ejaculate in your sleep to release bodily fluid pressure. I don't think it is a problem of this is the case, unless your conciously doing it or using your hands. I don't know your case, but if you ejaculate while being asleep then it is a totally natural cycle for a young man to go through. I dont know your age either, so Im just throwing this out there. The problem is, not a lot of people know about wet dreams because a lot of men never experiance them because rather than letting ourselves release the semin in our sleep we often get addicted to masturbation, which releases the fluids much more often than God intended. So unless your consiously doing it in a lustful fassion, it is normal to ejaculate once in a while during your sleep. So, if this is the case, then please do not beat yourself up about it. Masturbation IS wrong, but wet dreams are not masturbation.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 5, 2009 14:20:56 GMT -7
thank you for that encouragement, I really appreciate it. It's ALOT more than just that though, it's kinda hard to explain, my easiest explanation is demonic attack that goes in cycles. Like I said it's hard to explain and would take alot of time to try to. I really appreciate your input and encouragement, that means alot, thanks. Freedom
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Post by john on Mar 6, 2009 0:10:28 GMT -7
I would suggest trying sometime to write out the long description of what is happening, even if it is hard to explain. Often, the process of writing it out brings clarity to our thinking so that we have a better understanding of what is really going on.
Keep us posted on you!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 7, 2009 3:47:12 GMT -7
Hi John, this is freedompdx41, to reply to what you suggested. First, thank you for writing. I have actually done that and you're right it does help to write stuff out, I've found it is actually easier for me to write and a better way to communicate(for me), sometimes even in my prayer time with the Lord. I also used to journal quite a bit (I've fallen way behind in that practice). To maybe help in explaining what happens @ night and stuff is to me, daunting and embarrassing, Ive had a few ministry sessions of praying through some of these things and even then with people I know closely I've had a very hard time explaining what goes on. But here goes, (and it's not as bad as it used to be by the way) Praise God, cuz it's only been by His Power that any of this stuff has been removed. But there have been times where I'll be asleep and I will for lack of better words feel like I've been overtaken by whatever it is that I would be woken up saying very vile and foul sexual things as well as the actions accompanying that kind of stuff, I'm trying not to get to graphic, because like I said I'm a little embarrassed and there has been some deliverance from that. I just don't understand what it is that would do that. It has been a very grueling walkout process and exhausting. But God, for whatever reason seems to be letting me learn to war and stand in Him through this rather than coming down and swooping me out of it.(Which I'd rather be swooped, I think). Anyway, kinda lengthy I know, but hopefully might help you understand more of what I meant by "triggers and stuff". Prayer for continual understanding and discernment and how to walk this out "with" God and not getting all bent out of shape about it would be great. Thanks.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 7, 2009 6:15:23 GMT -7
I've had experiances where I wake up and feel like I've jus been sexually abused by some kind of demon or something, once after experiancing a horrible sexual dream and ejaculating in my sleep, which happened to be a night which was after I had looked a pornography. So, it sounds to me like it's an evil spirit trying to torment you. But just stand your ground, if you've repented then, as it states in 1 John 1:9, the devil has no right to torment you, because when you repent every evil spirit that you may have "unknowingly" given permission to enter you HAS to submit to the blood of Jesus. So just keep with a repentant heart and take authority over everything inside of you that would try to torment, you don't have to put up with any of this stuff. It's demonic and lustful to be blunt, and God can easily set all of us free from any torment, so don't ever give up!
-LoveSick4God
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Post by Deleted on Mar 7, 2009 11:07:45 GMT -7
Thank you for sharing and your encouragement. It's helpful to know that there's a place to share what's going on and have other people to support you and pray for and for you. I appreciate it and thank you again.
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Post by john on Mar 7, 2009 14:43:17 GMT -7
I can certainly appreciate the encouragement to wage spiritual warfare. I second such activity. However, I would caution against forgetting that we always have a choice and have to take responsibility, bear the consequences of our actions and repent, regardless of demonic influence or not.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 8, 2009 4:33:54 GMT -7
True, very true indeed. I understand that and appreciate those reminders. Thank you.
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