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Post by Deleted on Jul 8, 2007 11:39:14 GMT -7
Especially for anyone who already owns a copy of the famous book "Mere Christianity" by C.S. Lewis, I recommend reading chapters 5 and 6 under the section III Christian Behavior
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Post by Deleted on Jul 8, 2007 12:34:39 GMT -7
Well recommended, Dennis. I had it but recall giving it to someone and can't remember exactly when that was. I used to have another book by C.S. Lewis called "The Great Divorce" and although I have not read it for years, I remember a section where a man is walking along with a lizard attached to his shoulder, whispering in his ear. Although it may not have been implicit in the text, I interpreted this part of the book as an account of someone who was tempted by lust, in particular sexual but that was probably my own projection of what I understood the passage to describe. Later on, that man is delivered from this lizard and is transformed into another being who is able to enter paradise. I'll have to read the book again as my memory is not reliable after over 20 years. The main theme of the book is about the division between Heaven and Hell, as I recall. Guitarist63
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Post by Deleted on Jul 14, 2007 6:11:26 GMT -7
Hi GuitarMan ! (Guitarist63, I hope you don't mind me calling you "GuitarMan" - I play the drums - albeit mostly without any audience, so I wouldn't mind someone calling me "DrummerMan") Sorry it has taken me so long to respond. Yeah - I definitely know what passage you are referring to in the book, "The Great Divorce". Interestingly, I came away with the same interpretation of that lizard. Now that is a really cool book (in my estimation). I have to admit that there have been times when I have had a lot of trouble understanding how such a Graceful and Loving God can be associated with casting anyone into hell for eternity. However, the book "The Great Divorce" has been very instrumental in keeping me from going on too many tirades attempting to lambast the goodness of God. In "The Great Divorce", I got the impression C.S. Lewis might have been saying it is because God is so good - that some must be banished -- could it be that God protects those he loves (and who choose to love Him) from the pain associated with continuing to be in such close proximity with those who simply will not allow themselves to enjoy being with God? Or I've also wondered if Lewis may have been attempting to illustrate how our free choices can take us so far away from Him (He, who is the real source of all true and enduring pleasure) -- so the best way the God can communicate to us about the vast difference between the final state of me as an unbeliever, as compared with me if I will lay down my pride and accept God's will -- is through using the concepts of Heaven and Hell. Of course, I may not have correctly said what C.S. Lewis was really trying to get across, but those are a couple of the impressions I personally remember coming away with. Actually, come to think about it - though I have purchased the paper form of the book, I think I have never "read" it - rather I listened to it being read. I remember hearing it as I was waiting for one of my daughters to arrive at the airport. I carry a walkman type of CD player with me most everywhere - and also a PDA that contains a bunch of readable books - but also it can play MP3 audio books. For Christmas last year, both for myself and my family's use, I purchased several audio books read by excellent readers --- both Mere Christianity, and T he Great Divorce were a couple -- (btw - another really good audio book is Orthodoxy by G.K. Chesterton). If anyone is interested - Here is a link to where The Great Divorce audio book may be purchased: www.homeschoolingsupply.com/zondervan/christian-literature-z-0060572957.htmGuitarMan -- I appreciate you bringing up that book -- now I'm all stoked to go to listen to it again -- especially the part about that lizard !!! -Dennis
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Post by Deleted on Jul 14, 2007 6:52:04 GMT -7
Thanks Dennis (Drummerman) and am really pleased with your answer. You've got a good brain. I'll have to go back and read C.S. Lewis's books again. Audio stuff is no good for me - I have Asperger syndrome - so the printed word is always the most perfect medium for me. Even that when I read it is problematic. I have go over the same passage several times before comprehension strikes. I don't mind you calling me Guitarman if you like. Kind regards Guitarist63
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Post by Deleted on Jul 19, 2007 14:37:53 GMT -7
Guitarman,
For some reason I didn't realize you had made that last post. Thanks for your kind words.
I have still been reading more from Mere Christianty and I'd like to share some of the things in regard to contrasting the urge for sex with the natural urge for food (I've heard some people comparing the two as a way to make some excuses).
In an effort to quote as little as possible while still hoping to communicate Lewis' point - I have unfortunately needed to remove even pretty sizable chunks of several paragraphs, however I hope you folks will still "get the picture" : (Of course I suggest getting your hands on the whole book if this sparks your desire to read more). [indent](The above was written by C.S. Lewis in Mere Christianity - in Book III Christian Behavior, chapter 5. Sexual Morality -- published by HarperCollins --- note I removed things where you see '...')
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Post by Deleted on Jul 20, 2007 7:43:44 GMT -7
Yes Dennis, (Drummerman) C.S. Lewis is an intelligent writer on the subject although I see a flaw in the analogy where he speaks about eating to excess. Obviously doing sex to excess or even doing it moderately would both be wrong outside of Christian matrimony. It could also be argued that doing it to excess in marriage might be considered sinful. Whereas eating food moderately would not be sinful, unless of course our minds were full of absurd idolatrous notions about what we eat. The sin would then not be in the moderate eating of food but in the corrupt thoughts that might be generated by that. For example, a glutton who eats moderately as a means of overcoming the gluttony might find himself in a fantasy world where he is eating all he could wish for without limits. Guitarist63 (Guitarman)
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Post by Deleted on Aug 2, 2007 9:07:46 GMT -7
( The above was written by C.S. Lewis in Mere Christianity - in Book III Christian Behavior, chapter 6. Christian Marriage -- published by HarperCollins )
-Dennis
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