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Post by Deleted on May 1, 2017 3:24:52 GMT -7
Greetings to all, I am glad that I met this forum after being in self battle. I am a girl Christian of 29yrs just engaged. My fiance has been through porn addition for over 20 years now, we met on 2014 through dating site, he been open to me since beginning that porn has been everything in his life. What a good step he has made in his life is to receive Jesus Christ as his savior, I thank God for this step because he understands and agree that porn is evil. So, once I knew he is a Christian and he is willing to go to battle against porn, I started relationship with him knowing that we will win together the battle against porn. I am not familiar with porn addiction stories and experiences from people but what I found from different threads I read on this forum is about men being addicted to mursterbation, well, my fiance is the same, but more worse he has desires to use his own wife/women as a whore/slut with other men, he desires to invite multiple men in his bedroom to have sex with his wife, degrade and humiliate her, treat her as their slave in bed, he has a lot of filthy/dirty sexual desires than romantic sex for his own wife, he sometimes give up in the Lord and try to make this lust as a good thing giving excuses that God understands our human desires and temptations and falls, he tries to convince me to support him and have the same desires as him, because he wants his wife to be a whore and filthy in bed, he claims that this is the type of sex turns him on, this is terribly weird sexual desire I ever heard. He downloads a lot of dirty pics and videos, he knows a lot of porn websites, this all the devil has been on work to destroy his life. Since I have known him, I been praying for him, I pray everyday, sometimes he shows some improvements but it gets more worse other times, he wants me to talk dirty about dirty sex most of the time in our conversations, he wants me to pretend I am his whore with his multiple buddies in bed, this makes him feel good and help him to mursterbate. It has been a hell conversation that I don't want to entertain, I mostly try to make him feel loved and supported as I am praying for him to change. I had a chance since beginning not to involve in this relationship but I said to God, God you have seen me as a woman who will stand for my husband and change his life so I am entering this relationship with whole armor of you God, i should not run but I claim victory over Satan porn. I wonder he is a good Christian and he made me take a great step on my faith, he is my spiritual mentor, he knows the word of God, but this lust has been a major weakness in his faith, it made his life to be hard, I sometimes think that this addiction has closed some blessings to him, and it brought some curses in his life. He has low self-esteem and angry altitudes sometime , he doesn't socialize with people easily I think this addiction is one of the problem causing all. We expect to get married this year on before December ,since I am from different country with his, I have to move to his country by October and start our family, he has visited me twice and been to my family on last December for our engagement. I love him so much, I am struggling, fighting for this porn addiction because it might destroy our marriage if he doesn't recover. I mostly pray and cry to God myself since I am not able to share the weakness of my fiance to friends, I have a spiritual group of women here but I am scared to share this with them, I don't want to make him look bad to people who know us. I know he can't share his lust with anyone also so I am self fight for him. Please help me to pray for him to rescue our future marriage and family, also I don't want this sin to be a generation sin that will destroy our generation/kids. If it is a sin he inherited from previous generations let it stop here. I would like your advices how I can connect him with this forum so he can get some more help from you guys. He doesn't want to share his story with people. I pray the deliverance prayers for him sometimes if this addiction has the roots somewhere , let them break and make him free. I am still patient with Lord, one day he will hear and answer my prayers . Phil 4:6-7,Jeremiah 33:3 Dayana
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Post by Deleted on May 1, 2017 6:49:06 GMT -7
Hi welcome to BG. I am sorry you are dealing with this addiction. I will add you and your fiancee to my prayers.
I am going to be truthful with you and what I say is said in love. Run! You are not married yet so you can do this. Your fiancee is not fit to be a husband yet. His views on sex tell you this. DO NOT get married to this man. You know in your heart that he isn't right for you.
DO NOT let him take you from your friends and support system. Tell your friends the truth of what he is like. The reason you keep this a secret is because you know how they would react and you would not be able to avoid the truth of what he is. Open your eyes and stop avoiding the truth!
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Post by KevinesKay on May 1, 2017 10:14:45 GMT -7
I completely agree with everything that Amy said. Thanks Amy. When I read this, I honestly didn't know where to begin with this. There are so many things wrong on so many different levels here.
Akdf2014, please heed Amy's warning. I don't want to see anything bad happen to you. And what you're getting yourself into sounds really dangerous.
I hope we get to see your presence again on BG. There's a lot of support here. Keep coming back. You can get through this.
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Post by Deleted on May 1, 2017 12:45:25 GMT -7
Hello... Welcome.... I completely agree with Amy... Please please DO NOT MARRY HIM... were not telling you to give up but you dont need to marry someone that is not in a good place with god and his sexual desires... he has been honest with you about what he expects out of his wife sexually once married.. so listen to him and DONT DO IT.. i think that him being honest is a warning and a gift from god.. what does the bible say about the way a husband is to treat a wife.. It says ( if im not mistaken) that a husband is to love his wife as god loves the church... It does not say a man is to ask his wife to be a sex slave for him and other men... i mean no harm in what im saying.. i only mean this from love and concern.. He needs to get lots and lots of help and to prove to you he is a healed man before you ever get married to him... Im sorry if that doesn't help you life situations but getting married now can possibly make things end up alot worse for you...
I will pray for you... Love, hugs and prayers...
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Post by ladystrong on May 1, 2017 13:54:03 GMT -7
Dear friend, I agree with what Amy and Kevin have said. You are letting the devil into your house just by talking to your fiancé. Do you want the devil to be in your house for the rest of your life? James 4:7 says to "resist the devil and he will flee from you." Do not let him into your mind or heart through your fiancé. The devil will continue to deceive you if you let him. I can see that you are desperate for love and to be loved but your fears and desires are blinding you. You already know what is right and wrong but are making excuses to get what you "think" you want. If you choose to marry him, you welcome in a world of pain for MANY YEARS. What you described in your post is the work of a SEX SLAVE. Do you want to be a sex slave? Freedom from porn and lust takes a total commitment to change. It takes action and continued surrender to the Lord. Your fiancé has not repented and you can't convict him to do so. Your fiancé needs more help than you can ever give to him. He needs to confess these thoughts to a BROTHER in the Lord. It's wrong for him to talk to you about these things in graphic detail. Run while you can! Have you ever thought that there might be someone better? Someone who is totally sold out to Jesus? You are worth more than gold to your Heavenly Father and He doesn't want you to be tossed to the side to be used and abused by some guy who just wants his lust fix from you. You are a daughter of THE KING. A daughter of the King should be treated like royalty. It does not sound like your fiancé has any desire to treat you with dignity and respect. Yes, your fiancé can change but you've got to let the Lord do that work in him BEFORE even thinking about marriage. And it has to be with the help of other people besides yourself. Much love, Ladystrong
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Post by teetop on May 1, 2017 17:16:13 GMT -7
Wow, this is quite a story and that is just what it sounds like, a story. The first thing I'm going to ask you is what country are you from? I can tell you up front if you are a real person, God will not answer these prayers of yours. Num_25:3 So Israel yoked themselves to the Baal of Peor. And the LORD's anger burned against them. Num_25:5 So Moses said to Israel's judges, "Each of you must put to death those of your people who have yoked themselves to the Baal of Peor." Deu_22:10 Do not plow with an ox and a donkey yoked together. Psa_106:28 They yoked themselves to the Baal of Peor and ate sacrifices offered to lifeless gods; 2Co_6:14 Do not be yoked together with unbelievers. For what do righteousness and wickedness have in common? Or what fellowship can light have with darkness?(NIV) These verses alone show that God will not answer your prayers as He will not go against His word. Now If I'm wrong, by all means, jump me for my discernment. This is a great group with its own problems and one of them is getting hooked by fishermen. I moderate SA groups and this posting of yours would not make it. Virgil
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Post by Deleted on May 2, 2017 12:40:07 GMT -7
Tee I usually give the benefit of the doubt to new members. This member has actually private messaged me a couple of times. I believe her story.
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Post by teetop on May 2, 2017 14:51:42 GMT -7
Tee I usually give the benefit of the doubt to new members. This member has actually private messaged me a couple of times. I believe her story. OK, Amy, I will give the benefit of the doubt on your word. And I will give the young lady an apology. Virgil
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Post by Deleted on May 2, 2017 23:26:07 GMT -7
Akdf2014 - what you wrote as being your experience has deeply saddened me. I hope you very seriously keep an open mind when you read the replies to your current situation with your fiancé. This maybe your "normal" however what is happening is a very unhealthy way of behavior. Please know that I am very sincere as I write these words to you..... I am not a counselor or priest nor do I hold high education degrees..... I will speak from my heart .... I am not coming from a place of judgement .... only love... in my experience of my marriage. I discovered that my fiance' ( at that time ) was using porn. I too was blind. I was actually in denial. I told myself that since I am a Chirstain and since my fiancé had also turned his life over to Christ that it ( the porn ) would go away. And that he would see the light and marriage would be a cure .... It actually got worse. I found out that it was a lot worse than I ever could imagine. I found out It's not even called porn addiction now in 2017.... it's named sex addiction because it incompasses so much more. Porn is usually just the tip of the iceberg. What happened with us is that my husband got sicker and sicker and I for many numerous years I fought an all out war with Satan. I had started out with my husband being who I am at my core.... bright joyful full of energy and happy and competent and over the years my husband's play with Satan in our home stole from me joy happiness energy good health and peace of mind. ( looking back I actually gave those things away willingingly for the sake of my husband's happiness in his addiction ) Of course God was my leader and .... I fought a spiritual war like I never fought before. At times I felt like I was dying and Satan attacked my mind and left nothing of me but a crumb. However I kept going. It was a 15 year battle. Over that 15 years I became stronger and learned how to fight well. Meantime my husband became cold, distant and intimate anorexia (the total inability to have connections at all period with not only me but also our children and grandchildren) I began to build a wall of support around me after almost going down for the last time in this war.... i kicked Satan out for good! I won! God won! Satan did not take me down! God had carried me .... 15 years of fighting had taken its toll..... I got a counselor for myself, I got a pastors wife I read books and began opening up my secrets to friends and a couple family members ....I finally gave him a choice me or sex addiction. My husband had both for years and so then was the time to choose which one. I was prepared to leave. I was floored when my husband chose me. I then laid out what he had to do. Again I was floored that he did everything I laid out. He carried my husband to a place where my husband could for the first time in his life "see" the past destruction and devastation. Since then my husband has had a desire to practice becoming spiritually fit. He is committed to working his program of recovery and putting it first. I myself had become very spiritually strong however I had been all consumed in the battle that my life had gone by the wayside. This is where I am at now.... learning how to actually live again ..... I am trying new things as far as recovery tools and building my self back up only better than ever - actually God us building me back up except I do all the footwork I am learning on a deeper level that I am respindsable for my choices no matter what my husband chooses to do. I am looking for solutions and doing all I can to focus on solutions and not the problems. I am sharing my story with you in hopes that you might see that this is serious warfare. No one can tell you what's right for you to choose. However you need to be educated that you might be in for a horrible exsistance possibly for the rest of your life. The way I understand God ( my own personal understanding ) is that he does NOT always remove ot take away the problem however he does promise us that he will always be there for us through the problem. The way I understand God is that he gives us free choice. Many times we are unable to see that we have a choice ( we are blind ) If you are unable to trust God right now.... try to trust that all of us here are truly concerned for your well being. You have a choice. It will only get worse nothing will majorly change after marriage .... are you prepared to possibly be at full force war with Satan ( more than we are already even without sex addiction )? For possibly years and years and years? Are you prepared to be starved for love from your husband and to be fearful and sad and worried and are you prepared to be possibly killed by one of these men who your husband wants for you? These things happen.... it's reality.... what happens if a child is born..... are you prepared to possibly watch that child suffer sexual abuse and emotional trauma ? Have you ever considered the truth.... that you yourself are emotionally traumatized ? And have been since this all began? My story is not over.,.. there will be no all of the sudden everything is fine.... it's a work in progress. The way I see it for you nowbis God has given you a HUGE blessing and a HUGE gift by showing you just a small glimmer into what your life will look like with this husband. I say if you are excited about a future where your self esteem is ripped in shreds and you are devalued and treated like an animal / slave then by all means go for it. I just have one question why? Why do you believe that is the best God has for you? You deserve so much more. It's your choice. I only saw a porn magazine before I married when i had my fiancé.... and I lived through a hell I hope to never go back to and I did not experience the things you decribed as far as some of your experiences .... your seeing a glimmer of physical sexual abuse and emotional abuse and I am her to say that is only the tip of the iceberg as far as pain and suffering for you. God is good .... many times we say God is good so he will fix my husband and remove his addiction .... instead of saying hey God is good so he is fixing me by removing me from this addiction now. God is giving you a choice this is a huge opportunity to see things another way ..... think of yourself love yourself ..... concern yourself with yourself. It's ok to care for yourself .... God will amaze you and I feel sure he would soon bless you with a husband who is gentle and loving towards you as he wants him to be. Except even if God did not place a loving husband after you choose to not marry this sexual abuser - you you are still enough for yourself .... trust just trust God take a leap of faith it's your choice. I pray that you choose to trust God and trust others' stories of what deviststion sex addiction has caused others and choose for yourself a better different way of life for yourself.
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Post by Deleted on May 3, 2017 9:12:00 GMT -7
Oh sweetie, my heart aches for you and I completely agree with what the other members on this thread have said. YOU are fearfully and wonderfully made and nobody should EVER pressure you into loving them (sexually or otherwise) in ways you're not comfortable with. I once had a guy (whom I learned was a sex addict after the fact - there was a time when this was all new to me) accuse me of being jealous and not wanting to share him with other women because I didn't want to have a threesome with him. I am ECSTATIC that that relationship ended before I married him.
Sweetie, my life (particularly my romantic one) is far from perfect and everyone here can probably say the same thing. But one thing I have learned from what I have been through is that God wants us to set standards and boundaries for our lives. Some of mine are that there is to be no porn, no secrecy, and no lying in my home. From there, my husband can choose whether to live up to those or not. In fact, I am currently separated because, until recently, he chose not to. But those boundaries are based on biblical standards that God wants for me.
You are God's beautiful daughter. He created you with love and He does not want you to be abused or subjected to what you're being asked to do. Please don't think you can or should withstand this kind of thing because you are Christian. You can't. Only God can. His prescribed way for us to deal with this is to turn our backs on it. “Have nothing to do with the fruitless deeds of darkness, but rather expose them” Ephesians 5:11.
I guess this could seem hypocritical of me since my own life has been fraught with trouble. Let's just say that these were lessons slowly learned for me. I hope you find your way much sooner than I did. May God comfort you, keep you, and grant you the wisdom to navigate this situation according to His will. Bless you, sister.
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Post by Deleted on May 3, 2017 9:28:56 GMT -7
BTW, It may seem strange to take such firm steps against a man you're thinking of pledging your whole life to, but I've learned that part of being a Godly wife is submitting to God first and my husband second. Recently, my husband thanked me for all I did to stand against this sin. I believe that part of loving my husband was doing what I could to not condone this sin and give it free reign to devour my husband. It was and is my husband's choice to stand against it on his own, but I won't sweep it under the rug. Be prepared for some mind-blowing spiritual abuse (as I've heard it referred to) from your fiance when he says things like "If you loved me, you'd do this. You're supposed to submit to me", etc., etc. Dump that garbage back in his lap with scriptural armor of your own, and remember who you are in Christ.
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Post by Deleted on May 3, 2017 10:32:41 GMT -7
I'm kind of blowing up this thread now, but it's really making me think. I knew about my husband's PA when I married him last October (I found out in June). I'm not saying I wouldn't still choose to be with him, and I know God works everything out for our good (even bad, evil things), but if you ask me what my marriage has been like I'll tell you honestly that it's consisted of several good weeks mixed in with 6 months of Hell, and I've now been separated for a month and a half. At times, I have told God I'm sorry for ignoring His warnings along the way. I really just wanted to marry my husband, so I prayed and looked for signs that I thought God was showing me. But those signs were just my husband's acting.
My husband is somebody who needs consequences and repetition. As I've said, I love him dearly and I'm happy we're technically "together", but it might have been wise for me to have set the boundaries I have now when we were engaged and not married him until they were in place and being followed for a while. You can look me up on this site as far back as December (I've always had the same name here, but I have had 2 accounts since I lost my old login information) asking questions like "Am I going crazy?" and "Why are so many strange things happening?" I hope I'm not upsetting you. There's just so much truth in what the commenters are saying here.
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Post by Deleted on May 3, 2017 12:52:29 GMT -7
Hi all, Thanks so much for your kindness to share and advise me on my post, truly it's scary and I am really confused. At the moment I need your prayers as much as you can. Thanks again. Dyana
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Post by Deleted on May 3, 2017 13:31:57 GMT -7
Stay in God's word and keep your support system going. Answers will come your way.
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Post by Deleted on May 3, 2017 18:13:03 GMT -7
Dayana, we are all praying for you. God brought you to this forum for several reasons. Prayer, wisdom, and support we can give to you in abundance.
I agree with Kelly. Stay in the Bible and get your support system going. Tell your family and friends what you are dealing with. They will help you.
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