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Post by Deleted on Jun 15, 2016 4:58:19 GMT -7
Give it a go teetop. Remember you do not need to be thorough in that first post. Just get the conversation started and it can be added to as the conversation gets going.
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Post by teetop on Jul 20, 2016 21:12:04 GMT -7
Sin: A matter of the heart? A story from my past. 'It all started back around 1979-1980, I think. I was going to SWOCC, sober and learning how to be an Auto mechanic. At the same time struggling with my faith over the teachings I was learning from Psychology Class. At the time I could not get enough of God's word, even though I still kept making wrong choices.(Who Knew)
I had started to attend Houser Community Church, North Bend, OR. My recollection is a little blurry, but at/around that time I'd heard about some revival meetings starting in North Bend/Coos Bay, put on by David Wilkerson Ministries.('The Cross and the Switch Blade' fame.) I went every night for a week and on the last night when I was helping them pack- up I found two box's of small books. I was so intrigued by the Title, I asked I I could have them to pass out whenever I had the chance. They gave them to me and though I've only got a couple left, it still talks to me today.
That little book was called: "TWO OF ME: The Struggle with Sin" Two of Me: The Struggle with Sin
Check it out and enjoy! Virgil
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Post by teetop on Nov 19, 2016 10:26:37 GMT -7
Searching one's soul may seem like a wast of time considering it has been my experience that seldom are we truly honest even with ourselves. But I will start off with a clear definition of: . Soul-searching . soul-searching Also found in: Thesaurus, Legal. Related to soul-searching: soul-stirring, bare soul, ensouled soul-search·ing (sōl′sûr′chĭng) n. A penetrating examination of one's motives, convictions, and attitudes. American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language, Fifth Edition. Copyright © 2016 by Houghton Mifflin Harcourt Publishing Company. Published by Houghton Mifflin Harcourt Publishing Company. All rights reserved. soul-searching n deep or critical examination of one's motives, actions, beliefs, etc adj displaying the characteristics of deep or painful self-analysis Collins English Dictionary – Complete and Unabridged, 12th Edition 2014 © HarperCollins Publishers 1991, 1994, 1998, 2000, 2003, 2006, 2007, 2009, 2011, 2014 soul′-search`ing n. a close and penetrating analysis of oneself, esp. in an effort to determine one's true feelings and desires. [1605–15] Random House Kernerman Webster's College Dictionary, © 2010 K Dictionaries Ltd. Copyright 2005, 1997, 1991 by Random House, Inc. All rights reserved. ThesaurusAntonymsRelated WordsSynonymsLegend: Switch to new thesaurus Noun 1. soul-searching - a penetrating examination of your own beliefs and motives self-analysis introspection, self-contemplation, self-examination - the contemplation of your own thoughts and desires and conduct Based on WordNet 3.0, Farlex clipart collection. © 2003-2012 Princeton University, Farlex Inc.
With my frustration, anger level, and just bad temperament, I have some major work ahead of me.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 20, 2016 6:58:35 GMT -7
Soul searching is the most difficult part of the recovery journey. It has to be done in small baby steps or you get overwhelmed and give up. That is why we need to do this with our Lord present to help us focus on just what He wants us to work on right in that moment.
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Post by teetop on Mar 28, 2017 8:10:07 GMT -7
I ran across this article while trying to answer a question I've had for a long time. So I decided to share it to glean some others responses. I will also continue my search.
(quote) "Is looking at pornography committing adultery? David Sproule Sunday, 05 October 2014
What does the Bible say about the right of a wife to divorce her husband for looking at pornography? If he spends time looking at images of women (and thereby lusting for those women), can she, with God’s approval, get a divorce and even remarry at some point in the future?
Obviously, in our culture today, this is not a hypothetical question. Wives feel betrayed, disgusted and angry when they learn of their husband’s indiscretions with pornographic material. But, does she have a Scriptural right to put him away?
Jesus gave only one acceptable cause for divorce. “Whosoever shall put away his wife, except for fornication, and shall marry another, committeth adultery” (Matt. 19:9 ASV). “Fornication” means “unlawful sexual intercourse” (including adultery, homosexuality, prostitution, etc.). Therefore, by definition, fornication (i.e., Jesus’ one cause) is a physical act with another person. A person, alone by himself, cannot commit this sin.
This leads immediately to Jesus’ words in Matthew 5:28—“But I say to you that whoever looks at a woman to lust for her has already committed adultery with her in his heart.” Does not Jesus say here (some would surmise) that to look upon a woman to lust for her is committing adultery? And, if adultery is fornication, then wouldn’t this be justification for divorce? Jesus is not teaching that here. Let’s examine it.
Look at how Jesus phrases this sin—“committed adultery with her in his heart.” As a type of fornication, adultery is also a physical act. Specifically, “adultery” means “unlawful intercourse with the spouse of another.” Just as fornication is a physical act involving at least two persons in the act, adultery is also a physical/sexual act involving at least two persons. By definition, these acts involve actual physical contact.
Jesus states that lust is a sin that takes place “in the heart.” What does that mean? It means that lust is equally as sinful as adultery, but it does not say that it is exactly the same in consequence. Read the same type of comparison between murder and hatred in Matthew 5:21-22. Are those two sins exactly the same? No, but they are equally sinful, and that is Jesus’ point. John wrote, “Whoever hates his brother is a murderer” (1 John 3:15). The eternal consequences are equal, but the here-and-now consequences are not.
Lusting for a woman is not the physical, sexual act that is involved in Jesus’ one cause for divorce. Lust is a sin that takes place in the heart. As betrayed as a spouse will feel, viewing pornography is not fornication. Men, you must overcome this addiction and throw yourself into rebuilding trust and saving your marriage. Thank God for your wife! .Is Pornography an Excuse for Divorce?."
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Post by Deleted on Mar 28, 2017 10:00:42 GMT -7
Are you trying to find an excuse to say it is acceptable to look at porn and lust after other women? That it is ok as long as it doesn't involve more then your eyes and your hand? Because that is what this article is screaming at me.
Porn, lusting after others that aren't your spouse, being selfish with masturbation is not ok...Ever.
I am sorry but I disagree with the article. Lust is fornication which destroys relationships and if the addict chooses porn and masturbation over their spouse continually then the spouse has the right to divorce per the scriptures you listed. I think the spouse has to try to save the marriage but if only one person is working on it, then there is a last recourse given...Divorce.
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Post by teetop on Mar 28, 2017 11:23:23 GMT -7
Absolutely not! And I'm sorry you've misunderstood the reason why I shared this article. Your very last statement and I quote: then there is a last recourse given...Divorce; is the very reason I shared this article. And then your statement: Porn, lusting after others that aren't your spouse, being selfish with masturbation is not ok...Ever. I couldn't agree more Amy except for the suggestion of divorce. This was just the beginning of my search for an answer.
I find that scripture is given to us by God. But what we do with it is normally interpreted by our desires/human nature. A sinful nature, a fallen nature. I am right now struggling with the idea of divorce from my second wife. But if I do, I have come to the conclusion that I am not free to remarry again. I have more to share but will put it in my next post. Again thank you, Amy, for your response. Virgil
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Post by Deleted on Mar 28, 2017 14:15:45 GMT -7
I am sorry you are at the point of having to consider divorce in your relationship. I don't know the reasons behind this but if you would like to share, I am willing to listen.
Whether or not you would be free to marry again according to scripture is plainly stated in the scriptures you have posted. I got divorced from my husband due to porn and physical abuse. While I feel no need to marry again and can't see myself doing so again, if I was ever wanting to marry I would have a clear conscience in doing so.
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